yatsenko was transported to the states basically in prison, secret prison so to speak. for three years was kept in a small room and endured endless interrogations, deprivations. and while some of this story turns out fell apart he never varied about his claims about oswald. finally in 197 after three years of this cia leadership decided enough is enough and basic lee let yatsenko go and when i say let him go let them go to be in the custody of cia to resettle and try to put together and a semblance of a normal life. so fast-forward from 67 to 1978 which is where i found him. i have been in the agency less than two years and i'm still trying to figure out what's going on. i was dispatched by my bosses to go see yatsenko who will course had an entirely new name and identity and had a new wife. defectors not only shed their countries but shed their families in the old country and come here to get married. defective divorce is a whole other story. anyway so i was dispatched to actually go down and see him in this sleepy little southern town i say in the book at something ou

meanwhile yatsenko kept belting them down and started talking more intimately. he then really wants to talk to about you about the thing you're not supposed to talk to him about his distention. >> guest: he starts offering this so at this point i have argued violated my orders. first of all this guy drives me to his house and starts pouring this vodka and then starts with no warning starts going on about his detention. none of which i was supposed to hear but i was trapped and i was getting increasingly inebriated and not by choice by the way. he kept pouring them and he kept downing them so i figured i have to go with it. it was fascinating especially given what happened to me 25 years later. he started talking about what it was like to be incommunicado, to be subject to brutal deprivations. all of which, as bottom line was he understood. he said i know that the cia thinks i'm going to sue them. i'm not going to sue them because i understood we are professionals in the intelligence business. this is what you do with someone with me -- like me who comes over. ju