basically yawnion strength bit the -- union strength built the middle class, building union and non-union middle class up. you have to remember that the union sets the bar. when the union is raised, nonunion alike get the raze. once again, if everything opted out, it would - we'd be back to probably about turn of the century conditions in the working areas. >> well, let's get down to specifics. for decades you made your living as a union electrician, a member of ibew. when you walked on to a job site with a union card in your wallet. what's the difference between that work then and what will go on on a job site in kanosha. milwaukee, what is going to be different. well, slowly the training will change. i was afforded training. every member before me paid into a found fund. that was through union dews. -- dues. all that goes out the window. i was asked to pull wire, put in pie. it was done by standards established over years. you have identified who you will be up against, working next to. safety and quality will erode. it will not play good for customers and business owners. and it will n