president vietor: thank ycommis? i have had one conversation with steve, and i will have more before this comes back. one of my objections for this document is to the extent that recounted this time, we give meaningful definition to the challenge we face in making the decisions of 2018, and i think we are part way there. i do not think we are all of the way there yet. some of that depends on the urban water management plans for our whole fill customers' -- are wholesale customers. but i think this is clearly the time that we need to be clarified that challenge, and i think we have a good start on the information to do that. interestingly, the next and this comes up to be around 2015, and by that time, we should be able to describe what the devil we are doing for the 2018 challenge, so i think the timing is actually fortuitous, that this is a good kick off to preparing this commission to making the decisions, and 2015 will be a good time for the culmination of that. any other comments? seeing none, i will call the pub