commissioner yee riley: so what if you are both? commissioner dwight: it would be in between 2% and 6%. if you are not an lbe, you would get back x% if you need to -- if you meet the criteria. president o'brien: it is already in there. commissioner dwight:

commissioner yee riley: the 2% or 6%? commissioner dwight: i do not think this was ever a proposal where you would get 10% plus 8%. it became an 8% vs. 12%. president o'brien: so is that a motion? clerk: would you like me to read this the way it is written? i have provided benefit corporation discount of not less than 2%, not more than 6%, and remove the differential between the local benefit corporation to the non local benefit corporation. a certified lbe sba and the benefit corp. discounts may be combined. we would request that the controller after three years do an about tuition on those percentages. commissioner dwight: that sounds excellent. president of ryan: -- o'brien: i second. director: do you understand how the legislation was drafted with the lbe preference? >> i think so. so let's say the benefit is 5% for a benefit corporation, then it would be 15% if you are an lbe and it benefit corporation. if you are a benefit corporation where the war and you are not an lbe, you are at 5%. president o'brien: and that d

commissioner yee ruil -- riley: have we done some study and came up with that? commissioner: how long will it be before that report is ready? >> it is normally ready before the finance committee for the board of supervisors. you can ask for it to be earlier. director: if you want to have that, you may want to give a recommendation of no more a man or no less than a, sort of a range, but, yes. i mean, that is another way to think about it, providing the supervisors some direction and began thinking about the impact to our local small businesses. commissioner dwight: i think if we would say an outsider would get 4%, and an insider will get to%, i think what i recognize is the goodness of this be corp. movement. it is good, and i think san francisco would be the right place to taking a leadership position, at least on the west coast, and i think we have to be careful that we could undermine our previous legislation around local businesses by having this differential, because it would then allow -- it would sort of create perverse outcome of all of a sudden be corpo

. >> commissioner yee riley. commissioner yee riley: thank you for the presentation. we are all interested on the 5,000 square foot waiver. my question is, is it limited to only commercial buildings and how do you come up with 5,000? what is the magic number? is it based on survey or some sort of study? >> it is. 5,000 was a number we came to pending, we hope, some survey. we do not have -- it literally is a number that we just arrived at through conversation. there is no magic data point. i can tell you that anecdote alley we wanted it large enough to accommodate a medium neighborhood sized grocer. we didn't want it so large that it would capture users that many would not consider small businesses or some might consider out of scale with neighborhood commercial districts. but, frankly, i'm here to learn from you and from the staff what the right number may ultimately be. so we're not wedded to the 5,000. it was a convenient number that seemed to capture a range of businesses, but we're hoping that through research we can find out, again, who has been affected and wha

commissioner yee ruil -- riley: have we done some study and came up with that? commissioner: how long will it be before that report is ready? >> it is normally ready before the finance committee for the board of supervisors. you can ask for it to be earlier. director: if you want to have that, you may want to give a recommendation of no more a man or no less than a, sort of a range, but, yes. i mean, that is another way to think about it, providing the supervisors some direction and began thinking about the impact to our local small businesses.

commissioner yee riley: there are times when you on a building, and they rented out to a commercial business. the timing is an issue. anytime you renew a lease, you have to make all of the necessary corrections so the billing will be in compliance, so what if the landlord does not have the money to make all of the necessary work to bring the building up to compliance? how does this law compared to the federal law? >> this refers to what the federal law is, so it does not add. those buildings should be complied if they are renting to a small business that is open to the public. director: under the federal law, the property owner has an ongoing obligation to make sure that their property is ada accessible, so, again, just like the small business, the landlord has the choice of doing something or not doing something and still being subject to a lawsuit, and what we have seen in the lawsuits, that the property owners are also being sued, and having to do the same sort of payment outlays to the plaintiff and the lawyer, but because of how the lease is designed, then the physical structure, during