now the next guest is joining us , and this is yehor chernev, people's deputy of ukraine . mr., glory to ukraine. good day, mr. igor. well, the nato parliamentary assembly called to speed up the provision of aviation to ukraine in particular, fighter jets, what is the time perspective of obtaining new western aviation for ukraine , tell me about it, please, it is difficult to predict any specific terms because, after all , there is also the issue of pilot training and the question is still the transfer to us. but i think that it is absolutely possible to get the first planes in six months, in six months to get our training pilots ah, yes , such basic training will be very, very compressed because we do not have much time and normal retraining takes 1.5-2 years but at the same time our boys and girls our officers have already proven that they can shorten the training period by two to three times as it was, for example, the petriv system regarding the transfer of the planes themselves there is also question and the preparation of bases for their maintenance on the ground in ukrai

such a responsibility who was in hungary in 1956, you know, but today, in a conversation with yehor chernevely about nato and our prospects of joining the alliance, at least getting a plan for real membership and he remarked that the pdch for ukraine and the implementation of the pdch for ukraine will be a victory maybe er maybe sounds a little cynical but it cut my ear because you know the pdch defeat er the russian federation it is quite strange and i think that hardly any countries er- faced similar challenges on the eve of their entry into the north atlantic alliance, but returning to this thesis , one gets the impression that at the summit in vilnius they will carefully watch what will end up, or at least what will be the intermediate results of the ukrainian offensive on in your opinion, is our counteroffensive at all a decisive issue now for the north atlantic alliance to accept us or not, a perspective on the opinion if it really reflects the real state of the strategy of the ukrainian delegation to nato, which was expressed by a ukrainian parliamentarian, because uh, i believe that