yelland: i i don't belelieve any in s south africica is serioiouy suggestingng that we c can swith off our r coal-fireded power statations, whicich provide e 8f the power in southth africa currently momorr. hmm. it's's a vision and a goal towas which h we can strive. this is t a south african trend--"let's move away from coal"--it's a global trend, so, you know, one can try all one likes to hang on to a dying industry,y, but you cacan't fight t a wave. you havo ride the wave, and the wave of the future is not coal. for me, yoyou know, itit's better r thay ride the wave instead d of being left out to sea, looking for the nextxt wave whilile the winnnnee having cocktails on e beach. [seaea gulls crying] matharka: if we e say we are no lolonger going to generarate col through h coal-fired power stations, , ansthey're going too solarsrs and so and so, how w my people are going to be employed in thohose initiatives?? spoor: if you compare per-unit of electricity produced, both in the operating and in the construction p phase, the number of jobs in the renewable area is higher. there's the o