poland when they were overturning the regime, the soviet regime it was a beneficial demagogue, boris yeltsin at the beginning was beneficial. then you had there are the paradox, huey long was a very dangerous figure in american politics but also did paved highways and build hospitals and build schools and give textbooks so is rooted on his own ambition and his boundless willingness to manipulate that for his own benefit but also been doing good things for thousands of people. >> the fight to save democracy from its worst enemies is the subtitle of your book. who is fighting against him? >> a great question. the book is about constitutionalism part of it follows the stories of the six great thinkers who watched as democracy stumbled around them and encountered, there is a paradox called a cycle of regimes were it is dissolving and that has haunted since being invented and that cycle was arrested when the people are committed to constitutionalism to republican values that requires a lot that keeps any leader on a short leash. so the book's title refers to the flight of people to save democracy

when they were overturning the regime, the soviet regime, that was the beneficial demagogue, boris yeltsin in russia, a beneficial demagogue. there are a paradoxes, qe long was a dangerous figure in american politics but he paved highways, built public hospitals, public schools. his relationship to the people was routed on his boundless willingness to manipulate them for his own benefit but also in doing good things for thousands of people. >> the fight to save democracy from its worst enemies, the subtitle of your book, who is fighting against whom? >> great question. the book is about constitutionalism. it follows the stories of 6 great thinkers who watched as democracy stumbled around and encountered this. there is a paradox called a cycle of regimes where democracy will generate into tyranny, that is positive humanity since democracy was invented. that cycle is arrested when the people are committed to constitutionalism or a culture of republican values which requires a lot from natural citizens and keeps a leader on a short leash. the book's title refers to the flight of people to sav

>> guest: the woman in charge of solidarity apple went that was a beneficial boris yeltsin in russia was beneficial, then there is a paradox huey long was a very dangerous figure in american politics but he also paved highways and build public hospitals and build schools and gave textbooks of his relationship was routed on his own ambition and his boundless willingness to manipulate them for his own benefit but also rooted in doing good things for thousands of people. >> host: the fight to save democracy from its worst enemy is the subtitle of your book. who is fighting against him? >> guest: a great question the book is about constitutionalism it follows the stories of six great thinkers to watch as democracy stumbled around them and encountered, there is a paradox where democracy will extend into tyranny in has haunted since it was invented that cycle is arrested when people are committed to a culture of republican values which requires a lot of individual citizens which keeps any leader on a short leash. the book's title refers to the fight of people to save democracy from itself

yeltsin standing on that tank in front of the duma. this was not a coincidence. it was part of an evolution of thinking and peeling away from the collapsing soviet system. we have seen, more often than not, security forces siding with the people and remaining neutral. you saw that even in the case of the 1979 revolution. although they had orders not to fire on people. therefore, what is going to be the pivotal moment is, in my view, three factors -- the resilience and sustenance of the movement by the people, the fact that elements that want to peel away know that their backs are not to the wall, that there is another boat they can jump to, so the movements dynamics is key, the behavior, taking a position, and much more tacit support than just verbal encouragement by the international community in a direct engagement with the people and support for that, is another factor. and ultimately, how much the morale of the remaining core group desperately trying to hang on to this system and preserve it allows them to fully detached from them, dissension within the ranks

yeltsin. this was not a coincidence. it was a part of an evolution of thinking and a peeling away from the collapsing soviet system. we have seen more often than not security forces siding with the people or remaining neutral. you saw that in the 1979 revolution in iran, although they had orders to fire on the people. what is going to be the pivotal moment is three factors. the resilience and sustain ands of the movement by the people. the fact that elements that want to peel away, to know their backs are not against the wall, that there is another boat they can jump to. dynamics is key. the behavior, taking a position, and much more tacit support than just verbal encouragement by the verbal community is always another factor. and ultimately, how much the more alof the remaining core group trying to hang on to the system, and the division of the ranks itself. it is not an overnight affair. we are not going to wake up tomorrow and see that everybody in the revolutionary guard is suddenly on the side of the people. the goo

it doesn't make yeltsin's for us to use up whatever good will we might have trying to locate, excuse me, trying to locate a line that is undersized. the second thing is i think the federal land issue the, the permit initio, i have elaborated some on that but we see this as a large impediment. those would be thehi