you'll recall that yemen is the ancestral home of osama bin laden and was the site of the bombing nine years ago of the "uss cole" in the gulf of aden. 17 american sailors were killed in that bomb blast. >>> still one more note about terrorism tonight. india's prime minister says that he has "credible information" -- his words -- that militant groups in pakistan are planning new attacks on his country. last november, 166 people were killed in mumbai in an operation apparently conceived and organized in pakistan. >>> the talk of india today was the detention over the weekend by customs officials at newark airport of one of india's most famous actors, shah rukh khan. khan is a muslim and his name came up on a computer alert list. many indians like gayatri goswami of mumbai expressed outrage. she writes -- "the detention was shameful. the u.s. shoulapologize. they better." but others were much more understanding. one indian man implored his countrymen. wake up, india. wake up. it's time for tight security. i would appreciate it if india takes similar actions against each and every person

the problem is that 100 of those people are from yemen.e cannot just returned them to yemen, as it is believed -- probably rightly so -- that if you send them back they will simply be put out on the street and return to the battlefield because of the instability of that government. one of the detainees is from canada, many people in canada want him sent back there. the ongoing issue is if you will be sent back or he will be held for a military commission trial, as he threw a grenade into a jeep and killed in military soldier. -- killed a soldier. the obama administration has established a commission to see if there is evidence to prosecute or if they should be sent or released to their own country. those decisions have not been made. host: we will have to leave it there. thank you for joining us this morning. . health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius talks about medicare fraud prevention efforts. later, the pentagon is an update on the afghanistan presidential elections and security. we build here from australian and canadian

sue mentioned that yemen is a real problem. the detainees come from yemen but we don't have the confidence that they will be able to maintain any security over their own citizens. that is the diplomatic problem we face. host: is it the perception that all of the current detainees will be held in some way? will any of them be released? guest: the assumption is that several will be released. the chinese muslims who china would definitely torture if we sent back, they should be released. the question is where should they be released? congress has already passed a law signed by the president saying you cannot release them into the u.s. without some kind of official notice to congress. the courts have ruled that the administration determine where an individual should be released. that is the classic case of someone we have held that we said is no longer a danger to the u.s., but where do you find a place for them to go that is safe for them? until we find that place, they are still being held at guantanamo bay. host: nathan on the i

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you give -- >> allied guise of people cannot control -- >> let's say you find somebody in brazil or yemen, not exactly your friend, you shoot them. >> let me ask you about a guy who was in prison. 270 people died, 189 of them americans. he was just released by scottish authorities compassionate reasons. >> he battered by soon. -- better die soon. >> terrible miscarriage of justice. by the way, this guy looks healthy to me. one guy, the scottish secretary of justice, it was his decision and his alone. in fact, the scots have granted 80% of such requests over the last 10 years. >> look, this is a scandal. decadence masquerading as compassion. somebody at "national review" did a calculation, that despite served 11 days for each person he murdered. -- this guy served at 11 days for each person who murdered. >> i guess we are all agree on this one. >> robert novak, we brought you on, i got to be honest, to be the senate. >> i've never been as an act in my life. -- a cynic in my life. >> whether you agree with him or not, you ought to agree, the prince of darkness, he loved that, and nobody wor

the terrorist may be a citizen of somalia who was educated in yemen, have been trained in pakistan, and may be living in afghanistan or the streets of britain. this is vastly complicating the task of identifying and stopping those who would attack us and requires unprecedented cooperation with our allies. third, and related to the other two, is the changing character of conflict to a regular work there. it is exemplified by the improvised explosive devices that play -- claimed most of the british lives in after i -- in afghanistan and iraq. it challenges the assumption that victory on the battlefield can be swiftly followed by development in nation building. as one person has put its, given overwhelming u.s. u.s. superiority, it turns out that africa -- afghans do not give up. any smart element -- enemy goes unconventional and they are likely to continue doing so until we have demonstrated the ability to prevail in in a regular -- in the irregular warfare. this means that despite the economic recession, many developing countries are not only being left behind by are falling further behi

a terrorist today may be a citizen of somalia who was educated and yemen and has been trained in pakistan and may be fighting in afghanistan are attempting to commit a terrorist act on the streets of britain. this requires unprecedented cooperation with our allies. related to the other two is the changing character of conflict, from conventional to irregular warfare, exemplified by the improvised explosive devices that have claimed most of the british lives lost in afghanistan and iraq, undermining traditional military power and challenging the assumption that victory on the battlefield can be followed by development and nation-building. as put in the accidental guerrilla, given overwhelming u.s. superiority and contrary to the pre 9/11 conventional wisdom, it turns out that adversaries do not give up armed struggle under these conditions. rather, at any smart indigos unconventional, and most are likely to continue doing so until we demonstrate the ability to prevail in your regular conference such as those where currently engaged in. these three factors are fed by the extent of chronic p

one is in yemen appeared as you know, the arrest earlier this week in australia.t that there's no government there as the new afghanistan for al-qaeda and like-minded groups. martha: catherine herridge, thank you very much. trace: remember the scathing criticism of the big three auto executives who took private jets to washington to plead for a bailout? some high-flying members of congress may have forgotten the outrage. the house just gave up to buy $65 million jets. clair ms.clurman castle said she will try to block this after the recess. take a look at this. this is rare. this is a dolphin's stuck in a creek near san jose, calif.. there is a dolphin a laundry around -- there's a dolphin that is wandering around. someone is going to try to get that thing focused back to the ocean where it belongs. once behind bars, and now working on the links. former gitmo detainees. they're spending their days on the bermuda bowl golf course preparing the landscape for the upcoming pga grand slam of golf. the high rate of four chinese muslims known as uighurs is raising more t

the russian terrorists coming to yemen from afghanistan and pakistan and the horn of africa, the piracysituation over there. if you add all that together, then you have a very ominous and threatening strategic situation. so that, in a way, makes it much more important than at any time before. people might say the middle east was always dangerous, i believe it is dangerous this time because we are faced with a situation that we never faced before. we are faced with a situation in which danger comes from people -- actors that we don't know. we have events, we see the red lines, we have one action of terror that happened in the desert of egypt, in which we have a link between terrorists who are working between somalia and sudan, these kinds of networks look together, terrorists, organized crime, state-sponsored terrorism of different sorts, we have quite a mix of international pressure. the last group of cells that we discovered in egypt, short-handed, called hezbollah terrorist group in cairo, is really an international group. they have palestinians, egypt since, french, some europeans, a

freedom, i just came back from a trip with lindsey graham and joe lieberman and senator susan collins to yemen, afghanistan, iraq, and i can tell you, we have the freest and most wonderful nation in the world. [applause] i believe we will protect your freedom. the second part of your question was that -- >> [inaudible] >> yes. what you are referring to, my friends, is that some years ago, we adopted a budget process, and when you start talking about this, my eyes glaze over, but basically, there's an arcane mechanism that you can by 51 votes pass certain provisions because of the budget process. we keep hearing that democrats want to use this, what was intended for budgetary reasons, to reform health care using that mechanism. it is called "reconciliation." i am very worried about that. i fall all along they could not ram it through and get 60 votes, they will try part of it through the 51-vote process. i am unalterably opposed to that. it would be a drastic change in the way that the united states senate does business, and i hope if you see that coming, you would not allow that to happen. tha

th flight originated in paris on june 29 and stopped in yemen where the airbus 330 was swapped for 19-year-old airbus 310 before it continued on to comoros. in the middle of the night over the indian ocean the plane went down. i felt the water around me. find myself in the other an. i don't know how it happened. i didn't see my mother. in pitch darkness, she clung to debris from the plane and floated alone in shark-infested waters. unable to swim. i heard women crying near me. others were alive in the water. i couldn't see them. i was too far away. the voices soon faded. eight hours later, a small fishing boat spotted the little girl. stunningly, her only injuries were a few bruises and broken collarbone. she lou back to paris to be reunited with her father. in the hop, doctors broke the terrible news. a psychologist came to see me and said i don't think your mother is coming. i was the only one alive. then i understood. stephanie gosk, nbc news, london. >> surveillance video from the home of a murdered florida couple is providing new clues today into their desperate battle with their

there are terrorists now to yemen coming from afghanistan and pakistan and with the horn of africa, the violence situation over there. if you add all that together, then you have a very common and strengthening situation. that in a way engulfed conflict in any ways, but also make it very solutional with much more important than any time before. the people might see the middle east is dangerous. i believe it is dangerous because we are afraid of the situation that we never faced this situation before. we are in fear of the situation in which danger come from actors, but actors that we don't know. a state or this state that we don't know. we have events we see that the red lights, we have one action of terror that's happening in the desert of egypt in which we have a linkage between terrorists who are working between somalia and sedan, and czech. so we have quite a mix of internal threat. the last group or cells that we discovered in the egypt, you know, shorthanded called the terrorists group in cairo. israeli is an internal group, they have palestinians, egyptians, french, some europes

the flight originated in paris on june 29th and stopped in yemen where the airbus 330 was swapped for a 19-year-old airbus 31 befeonortinued on to the small off can't nation of comoros. over the indian ocean, the plane went down. i fell the water around me, she said. she found herself in the ocean and no sign of her mother. in pitch darkness the girl clung to debris from the plane and floated alone in shark-infested waters. i heard women crying, she says. others were alive in the water but she couldn't see them. she was too far away. the voices would soon fade and eight hours later, a fishing boat found her and then flew to paris to be reunited with her father and that's where doctors broke the terrible news. a psychologist came to see me. he told me my mother wouldn't be coming, she recalls. i was the only one alive, she says. then i understood. the 13-year-old's injuries were only bruises and a broken collarbone. the cause of the crash is still unknown. investigators are homing to recover the plane's black boxes at the bottom of the indian ocean. that's one lucky girl. jim, back to

i spent time with shane when he was in yemen. and i was set to go in december to visit shane and sarah in damascus. it would have been very like us to travel to a hiking trail. i wouldn't have hesitated to go on this trip with him. >> this is obviously seen around the world on cnn international. if by any chance someone is listening, iranian officials or even your kids, is there something you want to say? >> we hope and believe that the iranian authorities will recognize that it was by accident that our kids entered iran. we're assuming that -- we're not assuming. we know they had no intention of going to iran. that was absolutely never an intention. >> is there something you want to say? >> just, again, that we'd like our children returned safely and quickly. consular access is certainly our next wish. i believe, too, that there is a great possibility that they crossed a border that was not well marked. >> and if sarah's listening, what would you want to say to her? >> so much. mostly, i hope the iranian officials will be consid

we pick them up at yemen. what is the administration's position?y are a member of al-qaeda and constitute a security threat we would certainly look to detain them after recapture them some place. where exactly that is, i would hesitate to try to speculate right here. >> okay. are there plans within the administration to determine where that place might be? >> yes, sir. >> and to what we need to bring down here to talk to talk aut t? >> i can try to help you identify that person some merit than the department. >> i am always nervous when a lawyer -- >> a lawyer doesn't always have the answers. >> lawyers perse their words very easily. >> if we prevail we don't keep these guys forever. what if the don't preil? >> as the president said in may, if we have the detention authority there should also be some form of periodic riew. >> wait a minute. well, do you or don't you have the detention thority? >> we believe we have the dention authority with respect tohe current population. there comes a time -- and i think the supreme court may have alluded to thi

we have a serious problem in both yemen and somalia, and a strong contingency in the north caucasus,he russian federation. all had been on their deathbed or a state of near defeat. al qaeda does not command any of those. but it is the influence of what bin laden and others have done over the past 15 years. host: why have those insurgencies' grown since 9/11? guest: the appeal of religion in the islamic world is very strong. bin laden, if he has a genius, it is his ability to focus people on the influence of the west on the muslim world. we're very active in helping the filipinos fight their islamic insurgency, and very active in yemen. we tried to take out the government in somalia. part of the reason is our reactions, part of it is backed bin laden has been a very effective leader in the muslim world. host: is bin laden still alive in some form? guest: yes, in their culture and religion they would tell us he is dead because there would be mourning his death, but celebrating the fact he had died fighting for god. we have no one dozen years of records of al qaeda never tried to hide t

we have seen rising tension in yemen. we have seen war in somalia. people are killing each other in pakistan. all of that is happening. it is not between the muslims and the americans here it is within. the crisis is now actually fragmenting. is deepening to an extent that we are in need for a time of the. we are in need for sorting out these problems to see what is left, otherwise day after day we are seeing casualties. and that would be very difficult and complicated to deal with if we do not open new chapter of relationship between the americans administration and the muslim world. so there is a need for us also, and a lot of people who have been harmed by these kind of difference are not americans. we know that we don't want to continue living our lives and our children's lives in the shadow of killing and civil wars and conflicts. that is not the choice for a human being eventually has to live his life and look forward to a much more peaceful life for his children. media can play a major role of bridging the gap. but what kind of media? media th

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officials say that yemen pays only sporadic attention to al qaeda militants within its borders and the the country could become another afghanistan. officials say they're thinking about selling yemen weapons to help them fight al qaeda more aggressively. >>> here's stories to watch out today on the "morning express" planner. at 8:30 eastern we're expecting a report on jobless claims. at 2:30, the man accused of attacking the mayor with a metal pipe is scheduled to be in court. this is a preliminary hearing though. and at 3:00 p.m. nasa will testfire a new type of moon rocket in utah. >>> well, cash for clunkers helped sell nearly 700,000 cars. here's an amazing thing for a government program. they didn't go over budget at all. they didn't quite use up all $3 billion they set aside for rebates. your money for jennifer westhoven. who are the big winners. >> we hope the economy is part of it. the dealerships certainly did better. the carmakers sold more and ramped up production. there are people who either got new jobs or got overtime. toyota sold the most, though. about 20% of the cars t

but i wonder very much what anybody can do, you know, in yemen or attempts in the south to revive ther the situation in darfur and other places. if it particularly breaks down from the north. i mean, all of those possibilities are there. and i am not specialist in these cases. however, what i care about is actually how to realize that there is a dangerous and serious problem there. number two, is how to account for the day after. if it happened, i guess we shouldn't just wake up and we find piracy in the horn of africa, and that piracy is increasing. then we decide how to deal with it. i guess in situation how to contain the situation in a place like somalia and the common failing states. i think earlier the better in dealing with such situations. >> let me first welcome you to washington, d.c., doctor moneim said. the title of your talk, the arab-israeli peace process, i think that using his point of view, it is like trying to find a black cat in a black room that has no cat in the first place. it is an elusive process that doesn't seem at all to be going anywhere. israel, with all i

. >>> cia interrogators say that they and accused of plotting the yemen and they died in the attack. they tell that a judge has reported a redacted version of the release today. as part of the lawsuit filed on the part of the aclu. the spokesperson says that about a dozen cases of potential misconduct went to the department of justice. a former intelligence official says that they would quit rather than face accountability and eric hold ser appointing a special investigator for the program. >>> president obama, meanwhile, approved a new elite team for terror suspects. the new unit will be made up of several intelligence and law enforcement agencies. and facing international outrage over the relief and pan am and 70 people. and seen an emergency and kenny mccaskill and mccaskill says it was appropriate to release the prisoner who is dying of prostate cancer. >> i stand by the values and laws of scotland. they will forever remember against our people. and the pain and suffering, as i said, those who have been let the lord forgive them. but as i said, imposed by a higher power, any juri

sarah and shane both extensive travelers in the middle east, yemen and ethiopia.has hinted the americans could be spies sent by the united states to stir unrest. they say not to expect any high-profile clinton-like intervention because iran would never allow it. >> richard engel, thanks. >>> a large wildfire is burning in santa barbara, california in a remote area of the wilderness. no buildings are being threatened. >>> in michigan, a strong storm uprooted huge trees and knocked them into homes and roads. >>> it is now 8:04. let's get a check of the weather. we have the weather channel's stephanie abrams. >> i want to introduce you to sonya from canada. what do you think is hot sft. >> i think 93 degrees is hot. >> you're going to be hot today in the city. we'll be in the mid-90s. it will feel even hotter than that. but still cool around the great lakes. lacrosse, wisconsin our pick city. 86 degrees, mostly cloudy and a few afternoon storms. how about the rest of the country? how's it shaping up? >> heat advisory until 8:00n the tonight. surging to a high of 96 d

in another place, a different constitutional rule applies here given what the court has decided in yemenhampden, i just can't imagine that there would be any different in that decision, whether trial court supreme court as to where thi military comssion proceeding to place. finally, on the voluntariness issue, hopefully we can come up with some, like which on that. but in any event, we have language in the bill which incorporates the requirements of the geneva conventions. in terms of coercion, in terms of whether or not a statement can be used against a defendant. thank you all very much for your wonderful testimony here. your carefully, thought out testimony will be made part of the record. we will have some additional questions for the record and will now move to our second panel. [inaudible conrsations] >> all right. if we can all a quietly. those of us, you will miss a great second to pick on our second panel we have three distinguished experts on military commissions from ouide of the government. here are the outside panel. first retired vice admiral john hutson, kathy dtinguish 27

senator s led by john mccain are meeting with the president of yemen to talk about ways to help the country fight the threat from al-qaeda. the state news agency says that talks are focusing on bilateral issues and fields of joint cooperation, including counter- terrorism. the delegation has been on the middle east trip since last week, also stopping in libya and iraq. in addition to senator mccain, senator lieberman. a new approach is called for to dealing with burma. this weekend, he secured the release of an american and met with the country's detained democracy leader. the nobel peace laureate said she would not oppose the lifting of some u.s. sanctions on them. some lawmakers are looking ahead to next year's elections. the hill reports that 30 candidates have spent at least $100,000 of their own money on their campaigns for house or senate. that is nearly twice as many as the 16 who had done so at this time in the 2008 election cycle. in texas, senator kay bailey hutchison kicks off her campaign for governor with a five-day tour that includes all the major texas cities and three border

freelance journalists and photographers on their website pictures from trips they had taken together to yemeneople who traveled quite a bit both spoke to some degree arabic and were comfortable using local transportation so it's not that they were back packers carrying all sorts of camping gear. they were going for the experience to learn more about the region and they just appeared to have wandered over the border and got caught up. >> richard engel, live in istanbul, thank you so much. up next here, we're going to africa talking to foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. she's in kenya where she's traveling with secretary of state hillary clinton. and right after the break "the wall street journal's" peggy noonan. >>> please don't go near borders of hostile kcountries. this is something that countries are looking for, and you don't have to get very far away from some of these borders to be picked up by their border patrols and their security forces. it's regrettable this has happened again, and i really -- go hiking, have a great time, do journalism but stay away from those borders.

syria, darfur, yemen.c speaker as well, lives in the middle east. >> okay. they all have various experiences. >> absolutely. seasoned travelers. >> thank you very much, abbi. >>> now a story only you'll see on cnn. behind these masks should be light-hearted stories from teenaged boys. instead, these teenagers say they have been trained to be cold can-blooded killers, traumatized, some even say psychotic. one expert fears many could be masking their violence behind a veil of teenaged innocence. >> reporter: these are the lost souls of the taliban's terror. they were stolen from their families, abused, beaten and brainwashed by the taliban. the first day, they beat us you. then they made us exercise, they made us run and told us you will wage jihad. the pakistan military gave cnn limited access to these boys. the army says they rescued them during heavy fighting with the taliban in pakistan's swat valley. their faces are covered, their identities protected because of the possibility of retribution. the young