up to one humorous song about konovaltsya street in lviv, so you led off with a story about yevhen konovaltsyaer by a ukrainian collaborator and you said that it was the worst what the russians can do is to involve the ukrainians in collaboration, in your opinion , why do the ukrainians agree and why do they cooperate with evil at all? propaganda about the duration, i say this, i take a century and closer to the russian borders, that is, let's say ukraine there has always been a certain living subject of such steel permanent borders as it is possible now and really it was not then everything was different but certain parts of the ukrainian territories still hetman's are actually located on the territory of russia and the russians have always found some such weak they love to find characters. because you have already worked on them with certain propagandistic uh occasions with names. since those old imperial times, that is, their very mask has changed, and let's say these things as we can see, they are collaborative and still operate today , so let’s say. we mentioned konovaltsy and his killer,