yevheniya kravchuk a member of the ukrainian delegation in a pair, oleg havrysh , the chief consultant of the head of the office of the president of ukraine, is with us now live communication p olezhe good morning to you. so, we are moving confidently towards the implementation of this goal. this is a sufficiently large-scale goal. this is a tribunal for war criminals . how much can the support of such international organizations affect the final result? well, this is very important, because they are served by fareshti . the rest of the countries that participate in the creation of the tribunal, now we have , so to speak, such a general agreement that the tribunal will be created , but we are conducting negotiations regarding the model how will it be created under what conditions, i.e. for us, it is important that it be either through a vote of the un general assembly or through an international treaty in such a way that it would still be possible for us to remove immunity from putin and lavrov are ridiculous, i.e. these three, three stalwarts who also started the war, everything else,