>> yfrl, i don't have those details, but i do know it was analyzed according to the requirements of ceqa. i don't have those details, unfortunately. there's something we could look into more detail for you fung fung then lfung -- >> president fung: >> then let me go to a more technical question. we had a case where light and exposure for a regular unit is 25 feet minimum, but the a.d.u.s allow 15 feet. how was that to be determined to satisfy light and air. >> sure. i actually have a slide -- a bonus slide. >> she knew you were going to ask. >> president fung: maybe the question's been there before. >> i wanted to pare down my presentations in case it got too detailed. so on the presentation, it does talk about what our exposure to the planning code is. exposure is our requirement for access to natural light. as many people may know, the building code has a different or other requirement for access to light that can be met for potentially different ways. picking >> president fung: as you know, we primarily deal with neighbor-to-neighbor disputed. >> it used to be that the open area that