and we conclude our programming at 10:45 with i didn't think -- ying ma. that all starts next on c-span2 ice booktv. >> the rand corporation's brian michael jenkins takes a look now at the problem of securing nuclear weapons during times of rebellion, war and political run upheaval. that's next on booktv, it's about an hour, 15 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> then you can describe what you do, it's a bit humiliating, but thank you for that introduction, alan. we have, actually, been at this, as many of you know, for some time now, although this is, we're using the occasion of your, the launch of your book, brian, to really have a bit of a coming-out party in terms of announcing this expanded initiative, an array of activities. a lot of the work that we have done in the past, as some of you in the room i hope are aware, really has been focused as alan mentioned on the issue of wmd and non-proliferation issues. but -- and, indeed, this will be the focus of the discussion we have today. but just maybe to set it into a little bit broader context, we are