this is at least as big, if not bigger, in the british/irish context as yitzhak rabin shaking yasser arafat's hand. >> it's the next stage in the normalization of the northern ireland peace process becoming a place defined by the troubles for 3,000 people lost their lives in years and years of essentially civil war becoming a normal part of europe now. this is an extraordinary development. literally in some ways brings to an end hundreds of years of tension between britain and ireland. >> who would have ever believed this, going back to the violence of the '70s, violence of the '80s, who would have believed this. you had a key role there, richard. we're going to give you all the credit for it. it is -- >> yes. >> george mitchell deserves, tony blair deserves the credit. one of those remarkable sort of milestones where i never thought in my lifetime i would ever see. the ira killed the queen's cousin, lord mountbat, less than 25 years ago. he gets killed along with other members of the family and now you have people willing to put the past behind. this is an extraordinary sort of symb