[speaker not understood]. >> hi, i'm yo yashida for appaliscious. >> we'll try to get a conversation going to talk about typically what you're doing. i'd be interested in hearing each one of you talk a little more about what you think -- it certainly is a term we're hearing a lot today and in the past. we'd love to hear what you think open data is now, sort of how far along are we in terms of actually getting governments to release that data and actually getting companies to do interesting things with it. >> this is kind of awkward sitting on his shoulder. you know, we've been doing this in america for awhile. i would say this is a nice turning point. before there were people on the outside banging on the door, open data, give me your data. now you're seeing governments take the turn themselves and set up a culture and the institutions like chief data officers where they're actually proactively doing it themselves. this will actually be the third chief data officer in the country. chicago has one, philadelphia has one. so, [speaker not understood]. i have mixed feelings about it. no.