in any event, yoeci don't want pretend to be close to richard nixon and there were times when we talked to each other periodically, and i saw him in new jersey again, and -- but he would call me sometimes during election season, and he said let's talk about states. let's go over the electoral college and he said how do you think ohio is? here's when i got this, and i realized i was one of the long list of people he'd call and it was a story that i'd really want to relate because i think it's important to understand that generation. he was part of the world war ii generation and the generation that was covering the country and governed the country from jack kennedy to george bush, senior and they were all people who were young when the war came and were very much seared, tempered by war and they came of age during world war ii, and i think they returned to the united states. we have seven presidents in a row from kennedy through bush senior who served in the military uniform. all seven served in a military uniform, and six of them in the war itself and jimmy carter in the naval academy w