. >> guest: if yoguest co. if youm they are all within three years of each other.hey went to either oxford or cambridge and they all dropped out of the universities and worked in politics. and that is a fact. the head of the uk comes along. guess he went to a private school but h that he doesn't acy have a degree. and so he can say i am not like bees guys. i actually worked as a commodity trader. i've done this. he's been a politician as long as i can remember actually. but he has a sort of grain of truth and people who are angry are not looking for a forensic sort of truth. >> host: i'm very struck by the sort of obsession i obsessiy that britain or maybe just the british schooling that you yourself -- >> guest: is a very famous school. i have a slightly unusual background because my parents were immigrants which was a part of the old british empire. my first book was about the empire so. in these elite institutions at cambridge university, and so i kind of got both sides. with that -- i would say people from the more marginal backgrounds do struggle to get a voic