i'm looking forward to my panelists comments and i look forward to, if there are already questions, yona said i can take a few questions nand now and i'l be around for the rest of the panel, as well. [ applause ] >> some questions? >> absolutely. you're in charge. >> let's limit it to six questions. six or less. >> okay. go ahead. >> no speeches. >> no speeches, just questions. >> sir, george michaelson, policy consultant for counter terrorism and special operations. you talked about statutes and everything else. a former dni, a couple of years ago, mentioned we've got title ten to e that mentions the military. we've got title 50 that measures the agency, different rules and restrictions about the need for a h a title 60. can you speak to that? >> first of all, i've had people say hey, can you bring title ten down to my office? and if you're a lawyer, you know that hitle ten is enormous. title ten covers everything from the salary of a second lieutenant to the authority the secretary of defense has to run the department. it's an enormous. it's often used as code words for title 10 is the

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i was getting a little more nervous when yona was introducing general grey, every time he said lion, he looked at general grey, every time he said dear, he looked at me. i'm not quite sure how to take that. [ laughter ] >> i'm not sure. >> you forgot your glasses. all right. well, just the normal speaker's caveat. i am here speaking in my personal capacity. any of the views i say are my views, not necessarily those of the department of defense, the joint chiefs of staffs or the u.s. army. i'm afraid my role will talk a little bit like the military lawyer. i think you're going to get a lot of great perspectives this afternoon on the role of the military. but you invited a lawyer, so you will yget a lawyer's perspectiv. that's where i focus my efforts. my client, my boss, obviously, is the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. by law, it's his job to give the best military advice to the secretary of defense, to the military counsel and to congress when it comes to taking steps in one of the instruments of military power. it's not just the military that combats militarism. it's our int

with that, i turn it over to our leader, yona. and you got it. >> thank you, general. i'm not the leader, i'm a solder. thank you very much. i would like first to thank the cosponsors here. as well as the institute. my colleague, professor dunnwallace, and also those that are not here, but they work with us for a long time, center for security law and university of virginia law school. and graduate and come back later. and i would like to first introduce the panel of general gray is going to take over for a while. and first we have regular general in u.s. army. council to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. right here to my left. that's brigadier general david brisk u.s. marine corps. currently vice president on strategy and planning division. and going back two weeks later. and next is dr. lawrence carr from center for american progress and center of defense information and also georgetown. next is political counsellor of the embassy of egypt and the u.s. and in syria for two years. and finally of course i mentioned, professor dunnwall yas. we appreciate very m