as you know, we were negotiating with north korea all through the '90s about its reactor at yongbyon, a reactor we knew was bleeding peru tone yum and -- of course, that was the process they were on. this culminated in 1994 in if a very close -- in a very close call for another war with north korea. so close that bob gelucci who was negotiating with the north koreans at that time told me, he said, i can't seem to convince everybody -- anybody how close we were to a war with north korea. he said, we were just about to evacuate the u.s. embassy in seoul, and that would have been a clear signal to the north koreans that we were preparing to attack them or at least attack yongbyon which was the first fades of the war. now, clinton, president clinton had already had a discussion with general gary luck who was in charge of u.s. forces in korea. luck had come back to washington to say to the president a few months prior to this close call that we could win a war with north korea but that the cost would be a million and a trillion. and when president clinton said meaning what, he said a milli