harvey: if yoni had not died, do you think you would have gone into politics? absolutely not. - you wouldn't have? - nope. so it became a calling. it was a public battle against terrorism, became a calling. harvey: your military career was incredibly distinguished, but can you describe what happened with sabena airlines, with the hijacking? - you want the true story? - absolutely. my vision is you walk on the plane as a mechanic... - benjamin: yeah. - harvey: and you then you know, grab one of the terrorists, you push her against the seat. you, um-- eventually you got shot in the middle of all of this, so i have this big vision of what you did. well, it's all true, except that something preceded it. see, this was a hijacking of a sabena airplane bound for israel, and it was captured by four arab terrorists, two men, two women, okay? they got it into ben gurion airport in tel aviv, and they said that unless we release such-and-such prisoners, they're gonna blow up the plane. but we had absolutely no knowledge of what you do in a situation like this. and they gav