the new york financing was one of the reasons why the new york job happened later than boston. for a lot of reasons new york should've beaten boston. they were ahead of the curve. they were ready to move that new york had a lot of problems arranging the financing. there was a big pivotal moment that have been in 1891 when new yorkers have essentially said we are ready for a subway let's do it and a big thing happened. the city hall where they invited these people to bid for the project and open process and nobody did. there was like this enormous huge high-profile moment where they thought they would get lots of people bidding and here it is and nobody did. steinway, big moment for steinway and it was a big letdown for steinway. it's one of the moments when parsons thought for years he was going to be the guy to build the subway in new york and he said that said, i'm done, and going to leave and eventually he went to china to build a big project in china. he is in china working on a huge project their annie gets a cable grand that says come back, we are ready to build now. so h

in new york city everybody lived in the fourth as part of downtown new york city. crammed into the finnell of the island of manhattan, and was only when college began to speed up an electric talley came along and other means of moving people around started to come along that in paper able to move out and without of the city. at first it was a mile, two miles, then for miles and eventually six miles. the city began to expand and grow and that was critical to get people further out from the downtown area where they were living. that was a big moment in the second half of the 19th century that happen with expansion of cities. the book sort of developed from the pivotal moment when city started to expand. what happened was a couple pivotal moments happened. the blizzard of 1880. in 1888 a storm unlike nothing we have ever seen since then crippled the entire northeast. at least 400 people but some people estimate 11,000 people were killed in this blizzard. it just devastated the entire northeast. new york, boston and everything in between ground to a standstill. when th

open in new york and died before the new york subway opened. so he did not live to see it, but his story is certainly looked on. >> also the engineer -- >> which celebrated its 100th any herstory. the cape cod we know today. [inaudible] >> the question is can you talk a little bit about what the sinus? trouble today the green line extension and all the sign-up spirit who financed those projects? >> it's a good question. the new york story and i have a whole chapter, especially when the bids were opened in boston. it has been out to private contractors and they'll bid on it in the sky was the one who was awarded the contract. you would think the lowest bidder would get the job. the lowest bidder on the boston job was a brooklyn contractor. mysteriously the book written contractor didn't get the job. michael meehan went to the transit commission insert a floppy and bad he was the second lowest bitter. he went to the transit commission and city do not want to give this junior contractor. it's too big a job, too important. it needs to go to a local

he was born and raised in a new york family. in 1959, his family branched out and bought loews theaters. today the loews have billions of dollars in assets that generate 15 billion of dollars in annual revenue with interest from everything in hotels, insurance, oil and gas, to theaters. jonathan tisch runs the company and is also the chairman of loews hotels. >> made it guest friendly. >> he completed a massive luxury renovation of a flagship hotel that is near and dear to his heart. >> i grew up in this hotel. >> that work has not stopped him from writing books. >> you get about six hours of sleep? >> 5-6 hours of sleep. you will get an e-mail from me early in the morning. >> i caught up with him at his team's home turf -- metlife stadium. ♪ >> it is incredible to be out here. how does it make you feel? >> pretty amazing. i think that my father and what he went through to afford us this opportunity to be partners with the giants. >> bob tisch fulfilled his lifelong dream when he bought a 50% stake for the giants. the team is va

and all that stuff. >> he moved to new york city and moved to new york city as a junior.was a culture shock. >> whether and the food. 80 degrees. we have local food here, and my jacket freezing. your friends teas you about the movie coming to america. they do. >> they say coming to find my bride. >> the 6 foot 9 sof more is a leading shock blocker. to me defense is winning championship. i love playing defense. whatever we do to stop the other team we do. >> it's a big thing for me. >> his iq or feel, court sense is exceptional. as he gets stronger he has a fright future not just at st. johns, but the next level. >> have your parents seen you play? >> a couple of times, on tv though. >> what do they say when they see you on the basketball court. >> they are proud of me. >> mum almost stopped crying. they stopped crying. they are proud of me. >> he is loving life and hoping to play at the next level like his idol and fellow countryman. >> i can't imagine what it feels like. he is from where i'm from, he came here and made a name. that's what i wanted to do. i'm looking at t

for example, new york-backed eisenhower, nixon, reagan twice.governors have been democrats, but before that, republican george pataki served for 11 years. and while the current mayor of new york city, bill de blasio is a democrat, he actually had to go back 20 years before the last time there was another one, giuliani and bloomberg kept democrats out of city hall for 20 years. over the years, it's been a constant power struggle between the governor's mansion and city hall. who was in charge? giuliani, pataki? cuomo, bloomberg? and now a new rivalry. in the wake of 9/11, giuliani became the face of new york, and bloomberg continued the trend by wading into national issues like the recent gun debate. and new york likely isn't finished as a springboard for politics with national aspirations, though it's been a while since one got to the white house, particularly if a former new york city out of chappaqua has anything to say to that. nick is the political reporter for "the new york times" based in manhattan, and suzanne craig is "the times" albany b

there are a lot of facilities in new york city.e never very far away from a medical facility, so that is the good news, but the concern, obviously, who might have been in that collapsed building at the hour of day when this collapsed before 10:00 in the morning. we'll take a break, be back with more on "jansing and co." after this. your first grasp, your first smile... we were there. your first roll, your first friend, we were there too. and swaddlers blanket-like softness, that you've loved since day one, is now available through size 5, for many more firsts to come. ♪ wishing you love, sleep & play. pampers. my sinuses are acting up and i've got this runny nose. i better take something. truth is, sudafed pe pressure and pain won't treat all of your symptoms. really? alka seltzer plus severe sinus fights your tough sinus symptoms plus your runny nose. oh what a relief it is [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle

new york had 54 million visitors in 2013.egency sold out for super bowl weekend about a month before it even opened. it is not just about keeping hotels full. tisch says tourism is critical for the new york economy. >> it is about the jobs. it is about the ability for visitors to come and spend money so we can hire more new yorkers. if you look in new york, thousands of people are making a living in some aspect of travel and tourism. we want to bring in the international travelers. that is extremely important. they stay longer and spend more money here. >> since 1970, the regency has been home to the power breakfasts. business leaders and politicians convene every morning over coffee to get their day started. >> you look at the history of the power breakfast. it was started by my father. >> your father and your uncle. >> right. these were the times new york city were in very dark financial shape. the leaders of the city at the time came together to talk about how to save new york city. >> and they did it right here? >> everyd

he was born and raised in a new york family. in 1959, his family branched out and bought loews theaters. today the loews have billions of dollars in assets that generate 15 billion of dollars in annual revenue with interest from everything in hotels, insurance, oil and gas, to theaters. jonathan tisch runs the company and is also the chairman of loews hotels. >> made it guest friendly. >> he completed a massive luxury renovation of a flagship hotel that is near and dear to his heart. >> i grew up in this hotel. >> that work has not stopped him from writing books. >> you get about six hours of sleep? >> 5-6 hours of sleep. you will get an e-mail from me early in the morning. >> i caught up with him at his team's home turf -- metlife stadium. ♪ >> it is incredible to be out here. how does it make you feel? >> pretty amazing. i think that my father and what he went through to afford us this opportunity to be partners with the giants. >> bob tisch fulfilled his lifelong dream when he bought a 50% stake for the giants. the team is va

craig: are we still talking about the new york time or new york?ack to the "new york times" and discover my desk has been cleared off. craig: no, it is a great american institution. what are you talking about? if you can't poke fun of the "new york times," then you're not participating. that's what i say. we're out of time, dave. it is a very interesting book, though. you're a very interesting man. i'm glad you're here. david itzkoff, everybody! we'll be right back. i am totally blind. i began losing my sight to an eye disease when i was 10. but i learned to live with my blindness a long time ago. so i don't let my blindness get in the way of doing the things i love. but sometimes it feels like my body doesn't know the difference between day and night. i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. i found out this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. learn about the link between non-24 and blindness. call 844-824-2424. that's 844-824-2424 or visit your24info.com

triste espera para familiares de las dos mujeres que murieron en la explosión del edificio de nueva york ahora sól oquieren recibir sus cuerpos para despedirlos ,el piloto de malasyan es vinculado a desviar el avión, millones de crimeos votaron en favor de su elección a rusia, vladímir putin insiste que el referéndum es legal, john kerry dice que el resultado no será reconocido a nivel internet, mujeres deoprtadas intentarán cruzar la frontera para reunirse con sus familiares en estados unidos, comenzamos . ♪. ♪. >>> buenas tardes, bienvenidos al noticiero univisión, las trágivcas consecuencias de la explosión y derrumbe de dos edificios en nueva york se sintieron con fuerza más alla de la frontear, la mayoría de las víctimas eran inmigrantes que buscaban en el país uyn mejor futuro, alejandro roldán habló con sus familias . >>> estas sons su madres e hijas, antes de partir a nueva york en busca de una vida mejor, la explosión que derrumbó 12 edificios, terminó con el sueño y con la alegría de una familia originaria de puebla . >>> ahora sólo quiero que lleguen sus cuerpos para velarlos

but the real estate industry in new york, the factory owners in new york at that time consistently opposed any regulations or standards for basic things as you mentioned, fire escapes, sprinklers, opened doors, and they fought them several years after the fire. >> but ultimately you and your article really layout very well how pressure was then maintained and laws came into place. what are some of the things that we take for granted now as workplace safety laws that evolved from the movement to change things for workers? >> well, just starting from building safety first we now have mandatory fire safety codes, sprinklers, things like that. in the cotton--garment industry we have outlawed and saved thousands of workers' lives who sufferesuffered from cotton dusn dust seize. in our coal mines while many people still die on the job are as far safer than years ago because of a consistent steady stream of newer and stronger laws. there are many things that we take for granted in workplace safety and consumer protections as well. >> yet just a few years ago we had another coal mine incident wher

. >> it is very apropos called "new york, new york." ♪ ♪ ♪ start spreading the news i'm leaving today ♪ ♪ i want to be a part of it ♪ new york new york ♪ these vagabond shoes are longing to stray ♪ ♪ right through the very heart of it ♪ ♪ new york new york ♪ i want to wake up in a city ♪ that doesn't sleep ♪ and find i'm king of the hill ♪ ♪ top of the heap ♪ these little town blues are melting away ♪ ♪ i'll make a brand-new start of it ♪ ♪ in old new york ♪ if i can make it there ♪ i'll make it anywhere ♪ it's up to you new york new york ♪ ♪ ♪ new york new york ♪ i want to wake up in a city that never sleeps ♪ ♪ and find i'm a, number one ♪ top of the heap king of the hill ♪ ♪ a, number one >> bring it home! ♪ these little town blues are melting away ♪ ♪ i'll make a brand-new start of it ♪ ♪ in old new york ♪ if i can make it there i'll make it anywhere ♪ ♪ it's up to you new york new york ♪ ♪ new york ♪ new york >> yes! that was awesome. >> liza minnelli next week. >> oh, my god. >> have a great weekend. >> have a good weekend, everyb

there are many unique features of the york river. and i'll talk about those in a minute but i want to start with a little history. the first english settlers came to the york river nearly 400 years ago, but there is ecological evidence along the shores of european settlers who were here even earlier and before anyone came from europe, , indians named the river which means little cove beyond the hills. when i first visited, i spoke with members of the local community of the importance of the river to the people today, to the economy and wildlife of york river watershed. the river is home to important and rare species and the box turtle and the duck. the salt marshes serve as a nursery ground for nearly 30 species of fish that are vital to maine and the watershed is important where children are learning. students from nearby school districts gather data and inform community decisions about the environment and the economy. but maybe the most important factor is many of the hard-working people in this particular part of the state depend

so inside the city of new york there is another city and its called new york city public housing in a has about 380,000 people living in that city within a ready in apartment houses and etc. so what we do is train the resident to do jobs of the public housing project. cable-tv, maintenance, things of that sort. public housing authority under the contract to hire these people back. so we trained a number of people, mostly women, to do these electrician jobs and etc. because we do contract with the unions to take on the trainees and make them part of the union and placed them in jobs. it's tough and it's grinding, there are no silver bullets to this business grade but it is the right thing to do. and it's all positive. we do get returns on these. positive returns could we make progress. it's not spectacular progress. >> i will actually add to this and some of the details of the eastlake story, which is if they did bring in job training programs but it doesn't actually solve the issue. and so they have a lot of poor neighborhoods nowhere near where the jobs are. so we have a lot of singl

in new york, there is history., you've got the f train and here you've got the donner party. this is where the action happens. it's the beginning of a better life. ande also invented cronuts we have the new york giants. we have the san francisco giants. we have twice as many teams. the oakland a's winning the division two years in a row, come on. >> we have way better buried as. -- doritos. - burritos. >> we have better pizza. >> you have better new york style pizza. >> i don't know if new york is better for business but i feel san francisco is better for technology. >> san franciso is at her for tech. business, maybe not but we have some of the brightest minds rapidly moving here because they feel they can start and grow and not face any limitations. ago, it was hard to go through the wall in new york city. silicon valley for the last 30 years has allowed that. >> there is a distortion field that goes beyond steve jobs and cupertino where companies here tend to talk about things like active usersonthly and grow re

i want you to talk about this "new york times" story. plane is detected going up from its normal cruising level of about 35,000 feet to 45,000, then going down to 23,000, then back up to 30,000, then flying for several hours. what do you make of that? >> well, it's interesting from an aerodynamic standpoint. the surface ceiling of the airplane is 41,500. if the plane is up at 45,000 feet, the margin between overspeeding the aircraft getting into what's sometimes called mach tuck going way too fast for the airplane and stalling the airplane becomes very, very small. you're up there in a very dangerous situation. the airplane is likely to come down on its own accord at that point. it can't sustain flight there. we talked about the stability of the airplane. most airliners are very stable. what could describe that flight path is something that pilots refer to as a fugoid where the nose is seeking a trimmed position. it's sort of like making a paper airplane as a child when it goes up in the air and goes down and goes back up until it finds

seventy-seven fifth avenue new york. overlooking the conservatory pond where stewart raced to rowboats. i was told that my be fictional. i'm not sure. but they lived very quietly. mother was interested in chamber music and huguette was a collector and a builder of dollhouses and a student of japanese history and she commissioned japanese model buildings of tea houses and palaces and residences and at 50 to $80,000 talking with an artist in japan who would go to get pictures at the back of the palace and then the men so that they could work on their design and to get the fabrics just right. she was a meticulous and quiet artist. she took a lot of photographs and was a clip or of cameras. she had her passions. but the requisite that he deemed to be in line with her mother's, not going out much. and they were rarely seen in public in the '30s or 40s. in the 50s she went to the french consulate of consulate of the street for the christian to your fans and shows that would be there because she wanted to study the fashions for

i got home from new york. i answered it, this is catherine and? i said yes. i don't know if you understand how weird it is to talk to people from my text book. we study these people, i said there name hundreds of times through hundreds of students and for him to call me up is just weird and awesome. it is so much richer learning experience for the student and for me if we hear it straight from the people who were involved and that has been great. it came from asking a question. i am asking questions of time because it works. you have a new business you want to start, you want to invent a great new revolutionary product or service, you want to be more innovative in your career come ask questions, ask people to help you. it works for me and it should work for you as well. i am happy to answer any questions you may have. [applause] >> questions? >> i haven't read your book yet. but the birthday party. there was a reason -- i am sorry. customers coming to the party, it was an entertainment event, like bringing clients to the superbowl or something. >> it has been

city and new york state. it's certainly premature to have those conversations especially now dealing with the families and the immediate crisis, but i think a little further down the line, we can have some foresight as to what we need to do and some of the questions that need to be asked and answered. >> do you have any thought about whether this in some way helps people to focus on those needs. i recognize it's early in the process but gives people cause to be focused on the need for infrastructure improvements, changes on that level, too. >> i absolutely agree. when we talk about the infrastructure of not just new york city and new york state but throughout the country, there's a massive need for investment. we've identified transportation related plans, mass transit or bridges and what's often forgotten about and neglected is our suh and areas that we have to understand is due for an upgrade, meaningful life for many of these projects are 40, 50 years, we're pushing 100 and counting. >> there's a lot of ri

the real estate industry in new york, factory openers in new york opposed regulations or standards for basic things like fire escapes, sprinklers, open doors, and fought them for several years after the fire. >> ultimately you in your article lay out well how pressure was maintained and laws came into place. what are some things that we take for granted as workplace safety laws that evolved from the movement to change things for workers? >> starting from building safety, we have mandatory fire safety codes, sprinklers. things like that. in the garment industry we have outlawed and saved lives of workers that suffer brown death or lung disease. coal mines - too many die on the job - are far safer than they were basis a consistently steady stream of new and stronger laws. there's lots of things we take for granted in work place safety and consumer protections. >> a few years ago we had another coal mine incident where it was found that they had broken regulation, ignored regulations and there tends to be resistance when companies are making lots of money to say "let's create the safest e

cuomo ask himself to leave new york city or new york since he said new york had no room for conservatives, he just became one through an act of common sense. the greater issue is why did the greatest city in the world under two decades of incredible strength and leadership, hand power over to an abject moron? it's like building a beautiful jumbo jet and choosing a pogo stick as a pilot. de blasio is a left wing lurch. he's harming more children than lawn darts and freddy krueger combined, and the reason is they're not his kids. this reflects every liberal politician who kills school choice while sending their children to private schools. >> he's only been in office for a couple months. >> he's evil. this progressivism is evil because it's about money and power. you know what the school chanceler said. she came out and said these kids are on their own. >> you know where the evil cell cpac. >> detour. >> cuomo took de blasio. he realized de blasio was on the ropes in a corner, and what andrew cuomo did was smart. this is going to be my first venture towards the 2016 presidential run. i'm go

what about a system which we have in new york, if you're in east new york, central brooklyn in a zone school, that's your only choice is to go to the school that the districts assign you. if it's failing, it's a take it or leave it proposition. if you're poor, it's a -- >> a second ago you were talking about how it's always going to be public schools. if it's choice, let's have school choice. privatize the whole thing. the argument you just made is exactly the argument people make for privatizing education. >> we're not privatizing it. >> if you believe it, if you think it's ridiculous to consign someone to the absolute unfairness of having to go to their local school, why don't you also just take the next step and say let's get privatized schools? >> i'm not a believer in privatized school but a public school system and charters as a part of that system. i think we need different providers within that public system. >> when i talk to parents who are from charter schools, it's amazing what they say. charter school parents anywhere you go say the same things. they say the reason i like

i'm del walters in new york.side story" is next, and throughout the day we'll update you on that explosion and fire in east harlem. one dead, dozens injured. >> the man who used to run ukraine tells the country's army don't follow the orders from the new guys in charge. developments in ukraine continue thick and fast. it's the inside story . >> hello, i'm ray suarez. ousted ukrainian president viktor yanukovych continues to speak to the country from next door russia.

here in new york is brian jones. he taught elementary school in nyc for 9 years and is now pursuing a doctorate in urban education at the cuny graduate center. he is a member of the movement of rank and file educators, the social justice caucus of the united federation of teachers. one, you have been writing extensively about the charter school controversies. it is one of the first hislenges, and one of fellow democrats is his major opponent, governor andrew cuomo. >> this has been set up as a battle between the governor and the mayor with many of the charter school supporters counting on governor cuomo to be able to hold back the changes that mayor deblasio is seeking to make, and to be clear, mayor deblasio has not said he would not expand further charter schools. in fact, his administration approved several new charter schools, but his main concern appears to be over the increasing problem of the co-location of schools, not just charters, but the fact that many schools are facing that there are 3, 4, and five scho

and use them in new york city . architectly, you may want -- be architecturally you may want to -- they pay not fly in new york city. >> things that we as americans get used to, the idea that report began with the bathtub being the heaviest thing in that lady's home. in america we have big expectations, big appliances and a lot of things that are quite different. >> definitely so but those can be sof solved through the architecture and engineering. importing these to new york city and also in general to the issues. first of all, one issue is that until haas year, float -- until last year, floating homes fell under maritime law. >> so they are technically considered in the sea as it were? >> technically they were considered boats. but the supreme court last year said they're not boats. they should be considered houses. and therefore they should not fall under maritime law but they should fall under state law. but the state has not regulated these homes or these floating homes as homes. and therefore, there is no regu

she started in new york. she came to new york in her 20's and actually lived with donald judd.there was word there was a little romantic liaison between the two of them. she's really unusual in the history of art because she planted her flag both in minimalism. the early paintings are white minimalist seals of art making and pop art. she did happenings, performances and was quite influential in new york as a pop artist. and is still going in both directions works that you could call minimalist but very immersive and very popular work. this particular piece you're just showing is presented in new york, it was a most successful show, the most prop her show ever. people lined up around the block to see this work. >> rose: this is in 2013. next is john juddd from 1991. >> so this is a nice photograph. we built a new gallery on 20th street. we built a gallery with -- >> rose: yes, more than once. >> yes, good, good. anna bell, you put this building together and we open it with a judd show and this is the part of the exbusiness, work he did later in his career i think in 1991. and of

cuomo ask himself to leave new york city or new york since he said new york had no room for conservatives one through an act of common sense. the greater issue is why did the greatest city in the world under two decades of incredible strength and leadership, hand power over to an abject moron? it's like building a beautiful jumbo jet and choosing a pogo stick as a pilot. de blasio is a left wing lurch. he's harming more children than lawn darts and freddy krueger combined, and the reason is they're not his kids. this reflects every liberal politician who kills school choice while sending their children to private schools. >> he's only been in office for a couple months. >> he's evil. this progressivism is evil because it's about money and power. you know what the school chanceler said. she came out and said these kids are on their own. >> you know where the evil cell cpac. >> detour. >> cuomo took de blasio. he realized de blasio was on the ropes in a corner, and what andrew cuomo did was smart. this is going to be my first venture towards the 2016 presidential run. i'm going to distance

. >>> what lies beneath after that awful explosion in new york. a hard look at the crumbling and some say vulnerable pipes under so many cities and towns. >>> and keeping the faith. the francis effect, a year later. "nightly news" begins now. >>> good evening. i'm lester holt sitting in tonight for brian. a stunning new revelation in the search for that missing malaysian jetliner is throwing a lot into question tonight, from the area being searched to what possibly could have been going on inside the cockpit. it now aheres that the 777 continued flying for hours after it vanished from radar. we know that, sources say, because the plane was transmitting discreet automated signals after the controllers lost sight of it on their radar screens. it's a puzzling clue that vastly expands the possibilities of where the plane ended up, and it leaves some experts to wonder aloud if this plane might have vanished because somebody wanted it to. nbc's tom costello continues to lead our coverage. he joins me thou with the very latest. tom, explain to me what th

. ♪ ♪ >> el senado de nueva york asestÓ un duro golpe a los jÓvenes soÑadores o rechazar la propuestaenes prometen seguir luchando para cumplir sus metas. >> llegÓ a estados unidos cuando apenas tenÍa ocho aÑos de edad. sus padres que dieron en busca del sueÑo americano. >> lo que quiero hacer es ir a la escuela de leyes para ser abogada. en el futuro, seguir peleando por los derechos humanos. >> pero este sueÑo podrÍa quedar truncado luego de que el senado de nueva york rechazÓ una versiÓn que permitirÍa a jÓvenes indocumentados recibir ayuda financiera para pagar sus estudios universitarios. activistas indican que su aprobaciÓn hubiese traÍdo grandes beneficios a este estado. >> los pueden contratar en el trabajo. legalmente puede estar trabajando aquÍ. pueden pagar mÁs impuestos. >> uno de los compositores es el senador estatal republicano. dice que en el 2002, a los indocumentados se les dio la oportunidad de estudiar en la universidad al aprobarse la ley que les permite pagar las mismas tarifas que los estudiantes legales residentes del estado. de haberse aprobado esta nueva medi

i'm del walters in new york. "techknow," featuring kid genius, is next. >> i'm phil torres, welcome to a special episode of "techknow." we wanted to share a story with you of innovation that brings out the spirit of welcome. >> hello, i'm cara santa maria, and i'm here to talk about innovations that change lines. we explore the intersection between hardware and humanity and we do it in a unique way.

>>> the new york media swooning over lina dunham .her girls. last week she hosted "saturday night live." >> there is an old saying if you're nervous about giving a speech, imagine the audience naked or imagine they haven't seen you naked. >> plus, bob costas is still battling controversy for battling politics and sports. is he considering hanging it up? i'm howard kurtz and this is "media buzz." it's on monk, noon and night. the malaysian plane that vanished without a trace has become one giant media mystery, drawing constant coverage, endless theories, troubling mistakes and no shortage of speculation. >> that's why it's so astonishing to think that this plane took off in some 40, 45 minutes after taking off that it went utterly silent. >> in you reports tonight that the plane's communication system was shut down manually and not because of catastrophic failure. that it was shut down manually. >> nothing seen like this ever before. that search area, it looks horrendous. >> could the plane still be out there, intact and simply diverted to at un