the cotton south, the plantation south and new york city grew up together. the explosive growth of the cotton plantations straight across the deep south was largely funded by new york banks, because that's where all the banks were so, of course, you came to new york for your funding. the new york merchants supplied the planters with everything from the pianos in their parlors to their plowshares to the clothes they put on their slaves. new york not only shipped a significant portion of cotton, but new york harbor was where those ships came back to filled with european goods, and that made new york important to washington d.c. or washington city, as people called it back then. it had a big impact on the federal government because the government drew large, large portions of its revenues from the customs house in new york harbor. there was a period where the entire federal budget was coming from the customs house in new york city. now, it wasn't just the bankers and the shipping magnates who profited from new york city. the thousands and thousands of workers we

new york city and brooklyn never elected abraham lincoln. the instant he is elected, southern states start to secede, new york business leaders panicked at that point. secession would mean the end of their trade to the south and leading them holding $150 million in unpaid debts from the south. $150 in those days would be $4.5 million today. they are writing petitions coming getting their workers to sign them, writing their congressman, doing anything they can to stop the south from seceding. when lincoln passed through on his way to the white house, he got a very cold reception. walt whitman, very cold reception, he got a lecture from the mayor, ferdinand woods who famously when southern business partners started seceding suggested new york city should secede. people took it as a crazy idea, looking at at least one of the presidential candidates, i won't say his name, maybe we should revive that idea. when lincoln -- buchanan and the democrats are out, republicans are in. we need to remember washington is a southern town. after he was elected

it's going on right here in new york city. a growing number of people doing what was unthinkable in the co and more and abc's will gans climbed on board the manhattan's east river to get a closer look at the fishing fishermen who have taken up some urban angling. >> reporter: it runs through the heart of new york city. bordered by factories and highways, fed by the most polluted creeks in america. a famed final resting place, a punch line for generations. >> the east river? the most contaminated? on the eastern river? >> reporter: forget that. we're going fishing on the east river. welcome aboard the capital princess, this is your assistant captain, will, speaking, we're going to catch serious fish. >> reporter: it's the ultimate in urban angling. fishermen casting lines in the shadows of some of new york city's most soaring skyscrapers, some even eating the catch. more on that later. the best way to learn about it is do it, right? princess was anything but smooth sailing. there was not a lot of instruction. i just got the pol

how safe is new york city? >> whether you like giuliani or don't like him you have to give credit where credit is due. before that, like i said we just took reports and watched crime go up and took somebody -- took a leader to say we can do something about this. it doesn't have to be like thisg back then you couldn't leave a brown paper back in your car without somebody breaking into it to see what was in there.ar and it just took -- and back there we had 40,000 cops., we had an army. somebody had to lead the charge, and whether you like him or don't like him you have to give credit where credit is due and he showed that something could be done. mayors after that and police commissioners after that, followed suit exacter, -- suit, and now new york city -- some over nibbled is worked in were war zones. it was insane. one time my wife calls me. was working in the bronx and i'm talking to her on the phone and she is complaining about the bills, the credit card bills. and right outside my office window, bam, bam, b

reputation of all, new york city subway. >> there are weirder things that have happened on the new york city subway today. >> reporter: time for the moment of truth. 31. i am blown away. i thought this would be dirty but it is totally clean. in new three surfaces we test are clean but now let's take this challenge to los angeles. >> l.a. metro. >> reporter: swabbing this train pole. >> you can see the dirt on the swab. i don't know what it will come out with but that's visible dirt. >> 189, really dirty. >> reporter: not going so well in l.a., but what about germs above ground on this l.a. teaming with bacteria. gross. >> reporter: think that's bad, watch this credit card machine. >> more than three times the bacteria level you want to see. use cash. >> reporter: surfaces we test in l.a., all dirty. we shared results with our nbc medical contributor. >> exposure to bacteria virus can make you very sick. it is simple how fast it can happen. touch the pole, wipe your nose or your eye, you sick. >> reporter: we have one more city to go. these results are the most surprising. chicago calls

gist thinking about the size of new york city, the number of new york city residents who don't have a driver's license, we wanted the i.d. to be able to serve that purpose, at least in the city. >> in nevada, we're not there yet when it comes to an id. even the driver's authorization card specifically says on it not to be used for id purposes. even though some businesses could, we can't limit businesses from doing that. the other issue, too, with the drivers issues was the real id act. you have to do it in compliance with that. so our card is the alternative. if you don't want a real id, you can get this drivers authorization card. many businesses still allow for that. the other thing is that the mexican government with their card has increased their security measures, so those can be used where now in the past it was a little harder to use that. some of the other central american, south american countries, their consular card are a little better now. we've been able to use some of those for id purposes, especially when you're applying for the driver's license and other things. >> any

robbery pattern, and to be honest, it's a hypothetical that sadly mirrors the crime situation in new york city, that preys on minority victims in minority neighborhoods. when you look at who is committing robberies in new york, blacks are 23% of the population, they commit 70% of all robberies. whites by contrasts are 34% of the population and commit four percent of all robberies. so it's in those minority neighborhoods where you have elderly people, getting stuck up. so, when he came up with this pattern, out one that his police officers here again and again, not from themselves but from the victims of robbery themselves and it's -- police officers hope against hope that they will for once gate description of a suspect in a violent street crime, whether it's a drive-by shooting or robbery, that it white, but given the fact how crimes distributed in cities today that almost never happens. >> host: one definition of racism -- the definition i called classic racism -- you take the behavior of a few people, from a particular group, and then project that behavior on to everyone in the group. we ha

up in new york city cooler, 68 degrees in central park and in northern new york, buffalo and binghamton still in the 50s. 72 not too shabby in pittsburgh. as we look at winds again not all that strong 7 miles per hour here and 15 up in new york city. there is a chance that at times you get the breeze kicking up in

and new york city alone you may have about 43% of children who are proficient. that includes those childrens who come from wealthy backgrounds. children in sixth grade should not be responsible for taking exams that are filled with research documents that i had to read in college. those researcherred did not make the tesss off a sixth grate comprehension tess. neither was a book made in 19450. if we don't start pushing our legislators, with we don't start showing up and asking the good questions, how can i help? or i sitting next to a child and asking them, what did they learn today? ... what do you think i important for young people such as myself who are considering working in education, i'm to understand that it takes a heartbeat the potential that educators have to have a positive impact for their students and why? >> are you currently education major? >> i'm not currently. >> okay. so, the thing about education is a lot of focus on theory and not practice. and so what i would suggest is that if you have the opportunity of volunteering, perhaps meeting with

mccray: we like to say, "if it can work in new york city, it can work anywhere." d we want to be as successful as possible with this service. we know many other cities could use a service like this. i did not tell you that we are also providing trained counselors who speak spanish, mandarin, cantonese, and other languages. soledad: it is not inexpensive. mrs. mccray: the service itself? soledad: it's free to the people who are calling. but for the city to fund this with the languages and support across every level, its not cheap. mrs. mccray: i think it is actually. you have to take into consideration we lose so much money by not treating this properly. we estimate $14 billion in lost productivity because we are not dealing with mental illness and substance misuse in the right way. for example, we have 70,000 alcohol related emergency room visits to hospitals because they weren't treated because of alcohol alone. we know that people lose many years of their life because of substance use disorders, and they lose their life as well. soledad: i'm looking forward to ch

we help immigrants navigate the city government, new york city generally. under the leadership of mayor de blasio and our xhcommissioner, have focused on a few particular strategies at moya. one, to really realize a vision that we have of inclusive government and equitable city, a government for all new yorkers, including the 3 million foreign born new yorkers and make sure these immigrant new yorkers have access to city services and resources in order to pursue their dreams and fulfill their potential. another focus we have, as audrey mentioned, is supporting immigrants and accessing justice. for us, that means making sure we can connect people to immigration legal services, support them on their path to citizenship. we've done some research with the urban institute, actually, that shows the sort of economic benefits of naturalization for immigrants, a rise in wages and employment rates. it is good for immigrants. it is good for their families. it is good for us in the city as well. access to justice is a big deal for us. advocacy on behalf of new york city

she lived in new york city. and would take those home and distribute those to some of the homeless or people that were in need. and she'd see >> she would see that they were distributed and used. and i'm sure that didn't go with airline policy. but this is her with her husband. the beginning of her career. over here you have items that belong to first officer leroy homer. he was a graduate of the united states air force academy. and his luggage tag from united airlines. >> also has marion britain that is traveling with martinez. they were traveling for the u.s. census bureau. he is a 21 year veteran of the census bureau but this is the bronze medal he received for exceptional service. i think the other neat piece that we have here, this is the congressional gold medal that was struck for flight 93 and then in 2003 that was presented here on set 11th to the site for the actions of the passengers and crew in flight 93. so you have both sides represented there. and it's important to say that each site, each of the

gio, thank you. >>> now, to a developing headline right here in new york city tonight. a court appearance for the suspect in the bombings that rocked new york and new jersey last month. abc's linsey davis now with our first look at the suspect since that day on the gurney. >> reporter: bandaged and bedridden, today, ahm the man accused of three bombings in new york and new jersey last month, made his first appearance in court via video conference from his hospital room. >> were you provided with a copy of complaints charging you with various offenses from the city of linden? >> yes. >> reporter: his attorney at his bedside entered a plea on his behalf of not guilty to five counts of attempted murder of a police officer and weapons offenses. the last time we saw rahimi, he was on this stretcher after a shootout with police. several of the judges questions, but he made no other statements. bail is set at $5.2 million. david? >> linsey, our thanks to you again tonight. >>> overseas tonight, and the pentagon now making good on its promise to retaliate for attacks on a u.s. n

just thinking about the size of new york city, the number of new york city residents who don't have a driver's license, we want wanted the i.d. to serve that purpose, at least in the city. >> and in nevada we're not there yet when it comes to an i.d.ment even the driver's authorization card specifically wanted -- we can't rimt limit businesses from doing that. the other issue, too, with the driver's issues was the real i.d. act so that you have to do in the compliance with that so our card is the alternative. if you don't want a real i.d. you can get the driver's authorization card. the other thing is mexican government with with the matricula consular card have increased their security measures so they can be used whereas in the past it was harder to use that and some of the other central american and south american countries their consular cards with better but we've been able to use those for i.d. purposes when you're app applying for the driver's license and other things. >> any other questions? i have one right here. >> i'm from the association of hispanic real estate professiona

welcome to "matter of fact," from new york city. >> ? case to voters, polls show a tightening presidential race. republicans are looking to gain lost ground after some difficult weeks for donald trump, hoping to hold control of the senate and minimize any loses in the house. ed "obi" o'brien murray has been called a conservative campaign jedi. he's currently trying to help a republican land an open house seat. he knows the challenges of defining your candidate, in relation to the top of the ticket. it is nice to have you here wit mr. murray: thank you for having me. soledad: i said "obi" as a nick name. as an obrien myself, somewhere related. what does it mean to be a jedi of a conservative campaign? mr. murray: some reporter did that after i won a race years ago. soledad: i thought it meant like, "ahhh!" it seems like this might be a time in a campaign cycle where you are doing every jedi trick to help your candidate to manage both embracing donald trump and pushing away from trump? is there a moral imperative - i'm a conservative, i sh

go, new york city! and i'm nervous because we're about to test the place with th >> and just a guy swabbing for germs with latex gloves on. there are weirder things that have happened on the new york city subway today. time for the moment of truth. 31. i am really blown away by this one because i thought this would definitely be dirty, but it is totally clean. in new york, two out of three surfaces we test are clean. but now let's take this challenge to los angeles. no here is the l.a. dirt on the swab. i don't know what it is going to come out with. that is visible dirt. >> 189. the pole, really dirty. not going so well in l.a. but what about the germs above ground on this l.a. city bus? 259 on this bus pole. teeming with bacteria. gross. think that is bad? watch what happens when i swab this cab's credit card machine. more than three times the bacteria level you want to the surfaces we test in l.a. all dirty. we shared our results with nbc medical contributor dr. john torres. exposure to this bacteria

she talked about her role on the high court and her childhood in new york city. this is from the equal justice conference in washington, d.c.. it's an hour. welcome to the equal justice works conference. i am the proud executive director. you are in for a treat today a conversation between the justice of the united states supreme court and the judge e on the cot of appeals for the seventh circuit. let me quickly get, where debato they fit like liquor, you took it. that's okay. so, justice kagan needs no introduction. serving as the associate white house counsel, the dean of harvard law school and first solicitor general seized 112 justice and fourth woman to serve on the united states supreme court. our moderator has also dedicated all of her career to public service. she was the first woman of color to serve as division chief in the office in chicago and the u.s. district court for the district in illinois. she is the first and only judge of color on the u.s. court of appeals. she cofounded just the beginning foundation a pipeline organization that aims to incre

from the broadcast center here in new york city, i'm reena in new york city, i'm reena ninan. captioning funded by cbs in new york city, i'm reena ninan. >>> it's monday, october 3rd, 2016. this is the "cbs morning news." >>> donald trump's reported 916 million dollar tax write-off raises more questions about trump and the federal tax code. >>> monster storm. very dangerous hurricane matthew moves through the caribbean with 130-mile-per-hour winds. >>> and reality tv star kim kardashian is allegedly held up by armed robbers in paris and millions of dollars in jewels 57 newsroom at cbs news headquarters here in new york. good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. >>> donald trump says his knowledge of u.s. tax laws makes him the ideal candidate to fix them. he doesn't deny that those laws allegedly let him avoid federal taxes for nearly two decades. jamie yuccas is following campaign reaction to a report about trump's taxes. good morning, jamie. >> reporter: good morning, am presidential candidate's rival, democrat hillary clinton called the tax report a bombshell. but trump's

. >>> breaking news here in new york city. the bombings, and tonight, the suspect, for the first time since the moment on the stretcher. >>> and the outrage tonight. the 911 operator accused of hanging up on emergency calls, cutting them short. possibly thousands of them. even a robbery that turned deadly. >>> good >>> good evening. and it's greet have you with us here on a thursday night. list of women who have now come forward, accusing donald trump of inappropriate conduct. the detailed claims right here. and they come after that video, donald trump on that bus, describing what he's able to do to women, kissing them, grabbing them, because of his fame. it was during sunday's debate, he was pressed, asked if those were just words or if he had done that to women. when pressed, he said he never did it. tonight, some believe it was that moment in the debate that drove some of the women to come the media, the clinton campaign, saying they're driving this. abc's david wright leads us off. >> reporter: tonight, a growing list of w

this was on flight 201 coming in from new york city's laguardia airport. the plane landed safely here at mitchell but the man caused local law enforcement met flight 201 and removed the passenger the flight took off from new york city just before 8 p-m and landed in milwaukee around 8:45. a source with knowledge of what happened tells fox6...a man started acting suspiciously and things escalated quite quickly. the source says the flight attendants had to detain the passenger. southwest officials say their primary concern is the safety of their customers. they say they are on the incident. interfering with flight crew members or flight attendants is a federal offense. live from mitchell airport deandra corinthios fox6news. brendan dassey's case is one step closer to being back in a courtroom. attorney general brad schimel filed an opening brief in federal court yesterday -- appealing a ruling that overturned dassey's conviction. in august, a federal court ruled dassey has been coerced by investigators into confessing to helping his uncle, at that time, the

. >> i was reading an article that you are comparing this to the plaza in new york city. house so? you come into the plaza. that is what we feel about this building. i have toward this hundreds of time. you cannot do anything like this again. the crash mansion -- craftsmanship is great. >> what is the toughest part aboutt this off the ground. >> a lot of moving parts. we are dealing with a historic building so we have to be very sensitive to the nature and the historic basis of the building. obviously, from a financial standpoint, we have to convince the capital markets that cleveland is not only booming but ready for a -- project. you have to convince the people there typical sales pitch or tell me what you would say if you are trying to get $300 million for project like this. >> we say that this building was sitting in manhattan this would be 3 billion. this is -- this is a portfolio asset force. we are putting on money where our mouth is and we want them to do the same. this us. >> you are a florida-based property. which is the difference between developing something there and d

the deadly six-alarm fire here in new york city. the dramatic rescue. >>> the major storm hitting. snow, ice, freezing rain from d.c. to philly to new york. >>> the college student accused of sexual assault, and tonight, the list of women. what was allegedly discovered in the book next to his bed. >>> diane sawyer is here tonight. isis in america. one-on-one with the college grad, the star student behind bars. his stunning answer, what drew him to isis. >>> and made in america is back. liberty. what we discovered. >>> good evening. and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy thursday night. and tonight, 12 days to go. new polls just out in the key battlegrounds showing a tightening race between hillary clinton and donald trump. today, for the first time, first lady michelle obama walking out onto that campaign stage, right there with hillary clinton, with her own message about clinton, saying this is not over. and it c faces a new wikileaks headline involving money made by bill clinton after the white house. what one e-mail refers to as bill clinton inc. abc's cecilia veg

. >> while new york city is the safest large city in america, and crime has been going down, one of the reasons that crime is going down is because the police do make a lot of arrests, and everybody who gets arrested and who doesn't get bailed out comes to us. >> get arrested in the big apple, and you're almost assured of a trip to rikers island, a 400-acre penal colony on the east river, directly under the flight path of laguardia airport. connected to the mainland by a narrow two-lane bridge, the island is home to an average of 14,000 inmates in ten different facilities. >> every criminal who has committed the worst act -- >> bring all your property with you. >> -- is coming through here if they're coming from new york city. >> they come off of the streets. they're tired. they're dirty. they're hungry. and you saw everything there, whether it was somebody who was from wall street who was charged with fraud or whether it was the lowest of the low of the drug dealers. >> get between 80, 90 admission a day. around the clock, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. >> what size do

i'm he sorry, not bernie. >> so you think he was a true leader and really led new york city at a time of need. >> he was one of the people who helped us with the entire campaign to bring people back to new york along with barbara walters, henry kissinger. >> that helped him because he's a real estate guy. >> it helped me, too, i'm a real estate owner here. of course we want to re-establish our city. he was one of the people who helped and he built some of the great projects during the time that i was mayor and i turned him down for the biggest project and he's never complained about it. the guy always did business fair and square. was he tough with his bills and did he try to get the lowest possible price he could get? absolutely. but was he honest? did he cheat? did he -- a lot of these business people go to jail for trying to rig -- did he ever rig a bid? he lost a bid for the time warner center. that was the biggest contract i had to give and he's a close friend of mine. he's never complained to me about it once. >> before we go, i just want to ask you about one thing. clearly we'v

fire burning in new york city. it's happening this morning... the story behind this in three wall street could be in line for another mixed session today. investors focusing on earnings reports yesterday -- boeing helping to push the dow higher, while apple weighed on the tech sector. look for data today on earnings season -- we'll hear from the likes of ford, u-p-s, twitter, google and amazon. the dow rising 30 points to 18-199, the nasdaq falling 33 to 52-50. checking hot headlines this morning... we start with a deadly -- masive 6 alarm fire in new york city overnight...the blaze broke out in a building on the city's upper east side. it quickly spread to two nearby buildings. at one point the flames were so intense that some people left surrounding buildings. aftershocks.. in central italy... has emergency service workers scrambling today. according to the u-s geological survey, the first struck the area measuring five- point-four, while the second measured six-point-one. in total about 60 aftershocks shook the area, including the two stronge

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patrick's cathedral here in new york city after that private meeting with cardinal dolan. tonight, she is defending her husband, and how she describes what she heard. abc's tom llamas leads us off. >> reporter: tonight, melania trump, silent throughout most of the campaign, now speaking out to cnn about her husband's comments on that bus. >> when you first saw it, when you first heard it, what did you think? >> i said to my husband that, you know, the language is inappropriate. it's not acceptable. and i was surprised, because that is not the man that i know. tape, the cameras were not on, it was only a mike, and i wonder if they even knew that the mike was on, because they were kind of a boy talk, and he was lead on, like, egg on, from the host, to say dirty and bad stuff. >> you feel the host, >> yes. yes. >> reporter: donald trump has dismissed his conversation with bush as, quote, locker room talk. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> is that language you had heard him use before? >> no.

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york. the city is too big. so it's not a story to tell. it doesn't play. >> hinojosa: but you have said that, at least in the beginnings of your career, when you were directing the museum, sometimes you'd be walking into your office late at night or walking out, and that security guards would kind of be looking at you like, "yo, what are you doing here?" >> oh, no. that was not at the museum. that was when i was still in graduate school. >> hinojosa: oh, oh. >> beginning the ph.d. oh, yeah, then i'd be stopped all... yeah. and i'd go to the office at night, because sometimes astrophysicists might want to work at night. and i'd get stopped going into my office. i was never stopped going into the gym, though. i always thought that was interesting. >> hinojosa: okay, so you have this, you know, universal view of who we are and how miniscule we are. >> the cosmic perspective. >> hinojosa: okay, well, help me to understand, so within the cosmic perspective, how you put that stuff that is so personal, so racist, actually, where do you put it? >>