report is working for international news organizations such as the associated press, new york times bloomberg knowledge is here. i have been targeted since 2016 and is so initially said the software would only be in use would only be used to spy on terrorists and major criminals. the israeli firm has called the investigations findings exaggerated and basis. let's me thompson lena barber's, his data scientist for the university of california, san diego, and he joins us from portland, oregon. thank you very much for being with us hobson. so this package, this by where is men to target criminals, drug dealers, not ordinary citizens. first of all, just how widespread was the use of the spyware, and who did it target? we don't know how wide spread it was used, nor what its purpose was. all we know is that it was used to target these journalists and activists around the world. and in fact was used in order to facilitate the ca shogi merc motor recently. yes. okay. tell us a bit more about the spy wage. self peg is it? how does it work? how sophisticated is it, and what does it do? it's military grades as bei