first hunky dorey and a lot of that incident and august but you and the other spy does well from yorkshire bowie famously from south london yeah you had to come down south had to go up north to find talent you know yeah that's how i got out of it saying it doesn't i love the music executives probably see it well i'm going to ask about whether things have changed but why is it you had to come to london well it does as i mean like the beatles left liverpool the consideration was you couldn't really make it from whole or manchester or whatever so you had to make the old you knows and just kind of leap towards you know which was a big go payable in those days what was the culture shock i mean i was born in. an agricultural. town called driffield which was outside world so you can you know go into hole is a bit of a culture shock really well no. no no yeah. but it had a good music scene of that sounded hold there was a lot of kind of underground things happen and. and then. as i replaced one drummer in a band in holy went down to london to make it and was doing demos for david he was trying to make t