we will give you amnesty. u went through the litany of things that keeps talks about, the way the president exploited different groups. here is where romney failed. he did not even bother to talk to the groups. a great starting point to a real relationship with black americans because mitt romney actually said, here is what i promise you, school choice in education, entrepreneurship, lower taxation. believe it or not to know where i come from, there was a time when black entrepreneurship, my grandfather owned a dry cleaners. he was driving in a middle-class back in the fifties and forties. but these the things that mitt romney was talking about. family values between a black americans are for. when you pull black americans there are against a marriage. but jen he was talking about these things. when children are born and sustained families, intact family units, the chances of being successful, not down. so he was actually talking about things that we have yet to hear, out of the president's bauhaus' with respec

all of the questions do not require amnesty. you get all the economic benefits that people talk about without necessarily giving amnesty at this time. that is the position we support. this is dissipated over the last couple of weeks and months. it will be very difficult to get away from the senate bill. >> it will be better for them not to act on immigration and this environment. the american people have a lot of concerns right now. unemployment is out of control. there are some pretty serious issues that need to be taking care of, immigration being one of them. in the poll we released yesterday i think it was 1.5% or so who said immigration was at the top of their list. we have some pretty important issues to deal with, most notably obamacare. we should not be distracting ourselves right now with an immigration bill. >> if i could continue with immigration. if it is preferable that there is no immigration conference as with the farm bill, it is the same procedural situation that might play out or that you might be concerned being p

. >> bill: do you believe in amnesty. >> one more point. you can have policy that's try to make it harder for minorities to vote. i think one of the most terrible thing that's happened in the past election season is a number of states going out of their way claiming there was outright fraud when interest there wasn't any fraud to be of concern to us but we're doing thaing things to make it more difficult for those people to vote. >> bill: i want to get micro on this. voter id. wait. wait. voter id. you object to showing an i'd ix card when you vote? >> no. of course not. >> bill: that is what the republican party wants. >> i object to putting in place additional levels of voter id. one? one? >> disenfranchise those of our fellow citizens i want to is he a republican party rather than making it more difficult to vote and restricting number of days and hours you can vote a republican party says we want everybody to vote and we're going give you a reason to vote for us. >> bill: i don't know if asking for id is trying to restrict the vote, i'm

you do these love stories to hillary, you're not going to get any debates. everybody is like, go, reince. they want a fight. >> the fight should be over amnesty. you lose everything. hispanics overwhelmingly support obama care, they support gay marriage, they support abortion, they support big government. look at the polls. we lose everything. and we lose the country. we have no say in who an american citizen is? democrats can't win with americans. that's why they need to bring in a new electorate and it's being slipped through, and, yes, we should revitalize the republican party. i'll tell you who we should throw out -- >> is that love affair with chris christie over with? >> sadly over amnesty. by the way, that's when the love affair ended with george bush too. not only me but a lot of conservatives. >> could ter, thanks for giving me time to ask one question. >> you're welcome. >> thanks. good to see you. >>> when we come back, we're going to tell you what other government agency could, in fact, be tied to the tax agency's enemy list and one thing is certain, the answer will make your blood boil. and tonight the feds are announcing new moves

you can clarify -- i just want to be clear. says enforcement first and then deal with amnesty later. i think you had mentioned you were open to that, which would be very different than the measure you were putting together. >> well, first of all, let's clarify something. the senate bill did have enforcement first, before anybody could stay here permanent triple only thing i said what do we do with the people who are here illegally? we have to doesn't for them. if the house has a better way, i'd be open to hear it. i was asked, i would vote for a brill that only did border security in of course i would bore erred secure, irrespect tonight of illegal immigration, is a fundamental obligation of the ford government -- >> neil: i understand. the senate puts the to together, enforcement first, amnesty, whatever you want to call it, later. the house is saying, just do enforce; which -- enforcement, which the gang of eight saying, wait a minute, this changes everything. >> i don't think the house has said anything. we haven't seen them produce any legislation. some house members said that but

just because you disagree with amnesty does not make you a sport of rape and murder which is what thisming. >> this is what the left does when they don't have the facts and the figures to put on the table to have an earnest, honest discussion about the issues affecting our country. they use scare tactics, these smear tactics. it happens all the time. >> your book started out with this. back lash. you say google my name and what will show up. >> yes. at the te there were all kinds of thing that would show up. some name i can't mention on your program. and i'm not even telling people what to do. i'm promoting liberty, empowerment. that's die when on a daily basis. for anyone to come out against me because provide motor liberty is just weak. >> let me ask this question through prism of the 50th anniversary of martin luther king's i have a dream speech. he talks about he envisions a day. judging people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. do you think he would be proud of this rhetoric by luis goo gutierrez? >> no. i think that incendiary rhetoric on both sides,

has become the first country to regulate marijuana, do you think edward snowden's rejection of bolivia and asylum should entitle him to safe amnesty if hawaii provides him a free ticket home to the u.s.? >> what? wait, to marijuana is legal in uruguay, but you want to go to hawaii? i'm confused. >> now that uruguay has become the first country to regulate marijuana, do you think edward snowden's rejection of bolivian and convenience zale iian amnesy should entitle him amnesty to to russia if hawaii provides him a free ticket to the united states? >> i do, i think that makes perfect sense, hawaii should provide him a ticket regardless, since he doesn't want to go to venezuela, he should go to ecuador. because they do have regulated weed, which means legal weed, which is always the way to go. >> that makes perfect sense. the way you said it, too. >> it does. >> now that uruguay has become the first country to regulate marijuana, do you think edward snowden's rejection of bolivia and venezuelan asylum should entitle him to amnesty in russia if hawaii provides him a free ticket home to the united states? >> you say marijuana is legal?

then when they saw that president obama had done the executive order for the dream amnesty, which i imagine applies to yought? the dreamer amnesty, they were kind of mad, i think, wait a second, we left too early. they left a little bit before that so now they want to take advantage at which even though they weren't in the country. now, i'm sorry, that's like violating the law once. they were kids when they violated the first law. can't say it's not their fault. then they are adults and trying to violate the law again. so i don't understand how like we're supposed to follow over saying this is your home. when i go into someone else's home i try to follow their rules. so when you come into our home and make it your home, then you have got to follow the rules. >> absolutely. it's like what you always mention what fox news always mentions creating a line, where is the line? that's exactly what the dream line is. actually really trying to create that line that really does not exist. there is no line for young people who came to the u.s. there is no line working parents just here to work. >> laura: what about

that's why the democrats want amnesty. >> you think president obama likes his job? >> i have no idea. i don't know him. i've never spoken to him. i don't know how to read those kind of tea leaves just watching them. all i can do is read and what other people have written about. how he doesn't show up early or whatever. i've heard people say that the job has been -- he needs to be running the world to be challenged, to be invigorated. the united states is chump -- he needs the united nations. he needs to be running the whole shebang. i don't know what's true. i don't know whether he likes the job or not. i think he does and is relishing the opportunity to put into play what leftist had only dreamed about in faculty lounges for to 50 to 75 years. i think he's thrilled with the opportunity to transform america and move it away from this unjust, immoral way it was founded. and make it fair for everybody. i mean, whatever he's trying to do to it. i do think he's possessed with that. whether he likes to get up and go to work every day, i don't think he likes having opposi

>> now that uruguay has become the first country to legalize marijuana, do you think they should entitle him amnesty to to russia if hawaii provides him a free ticket to the united states? >> i do, i think that makes perfect sense, hawaii should provide him a ticket regardless, since he doesn't want to go to venezuela, he should go to ecuador. because they have weed, which is always the way to go. >> that makes perfect sense. the way you said it, too. >> it does. >> now that uruguay has become the first country to regulate marijuana, do you think edward snowden's rejection of bolivia should allow him asylum in russia if they allow him a free ticket to the united states? >> you say marijuana is legal? >> yes. >> let him smoke and chill. i mean, that is what it is. if it is legal, what it is. >> now that uruguay has become the first country to legalize marijuana, do you think edward snowden's rejection should allow him amnesty in russia if hawaii provides him a free homeless ticket home to the u.s.? >> that could include other countries following their foot steps, i think that is a good decision for h

. >> alisyn: then you know he did the dream act where he basically gave amnesty to young, illegal immigrants were brought here through no fault of their own before that they were 18 years old, so he did that through the dream act. you any, lots of people are saying he is doing an end run around congress. that's not how it is supposed to work. the administration is saying: i have to do that because they are so dysfunctional that they can't actually get anything done. >> tucker: they are in the way of this whole three-part government. so inefficient. so much easier if you let the dear leader do what he he wants. where are democrats in congress? this is an insult not just to republicans but to anybody serving in either chamber of congress. he is blowing right past. >> alisyn: many presidents do executive orders. >> tucker: they all want to do it. >> alisyn: president clinton did many executive orders. this is not unprecedented or unheard of. it sounds like what president obama has decided to do. >> clayton: members of congress for the first time vocally say they are from us straighted. this the

. >> can i read you a statement from amnesty international of july 16, 2013?y say at this time of extreme polarization and division it's more important than ever that the office of the public prosecutor demonstrates that it's truly independent and not politicized. there are allegations from human rights groups that the public prosecutor's office is being politicized outside of what you said about it being respected around the world. >> this is nonsense. it does not, you know, the egyptian judiciary, the egyptian public prosecutor office is completely independent. nobody can interfere at all, and this is quite clear, and it should be understood by external institutions. >> well, perhaps you can clarify the campaign that is going on to arrest members of the muslim brotherhood. >> no, again, what is happening in egypt is in conformity with egyptian law. you know, i can assure you, and i can refer you to reports by egyptian ngos dealing with human rights in egypt, they say clearly that there is no single political in egypt. they are all being arrested based upon,

first of all on immigration i think like you do, not for amnesty. i'm sorry but those people did come here and the overstayed their visas and they knew it and they are here illegally and i'm not for giving them citizenship. also, on benghazi i have to grant children serving in the military. i didn't vote for obama and i wouldn't vote for him ever. i think that he is leading us in a socialist countries have come and the sad part about it i think there's a lot of young people that don't understand that because they are not being taught that anymore in the schools. on the benghazi thing i don't understand why it has taken so long. if anyone of us in here had done something like that we would already be gone and buried. for those two people, obama and hillary, to stand up in front of the parents of those young men and blame this on a man in california, how in heaven's name do they get away with it? if one of those had been my grandchildren or a sign i would have been screaming at that man. they would have had to put the underground because i don't know

through the dark of night and republican contributors, you know, and mark zuckerbergs are going to give us money and screw the people who hate amnesty. as for this looming government shut down i've been listening to you talk about it on the radio along with other 14 million listeners and i have been dying to talk to you about this because i really don't think republicans should be on either side saying the other side is a monster or doing something horribly wrong. we all want to defund obama care. one side, i understand says had is going hurt us. we're not going to defund it. we have one half of one third of government. last time we tried this in the 90s it did hurt republicans a lot. i think three differents are different this time. one is that this time we have ted cruise and mike lee leading the fight. last time it was newt gingrich that ended up not being helpful. >> sean: the interview didn't hurt that much. >> it hurt a lot. point two every time the republicans threatened to shut down the government or shut down the government it's been over the budget generally. the deficit. i promise you, no one care btz deficit. republicans

i'm not saying that you have anything, but if you happen to find something by chance, you can put it in this amnestyt here. >> we want to make the message clear. this is your last chance. we want you to visit your people but we have people that want to try to sneak drugs into the jail. >> security measures are equally tight at the los angeles county jail. once inside, visitors and inmates are separated by glass partitions and are strictly monitored. >> general population, you get 15 minutes four days a week. that's it. they're on the timers. we push a button, they start up. it clicks when it goes off. and you got to share that space with all those other inmates. they have 15 minutes. as soon as that timer clicks off, there's no warning. it just goes off. so they will be sitting there in the middle of conversation maybe saying i love you to someone, and boom, and there's no sound. >> that sound you just heard clicking is one of the rows shutting off. so that means we got inmates that are ready to return to their housing location. ♪ >> when we met bernard jones at the miami-dade county jail, the aspir

[applause] they toll for you because the people have had enough of the amnesty, the bailouts, and wallanks being bailed out while small businesses got nothing. they have had enough. raising enough of you your own pay time and time again while people here in the commonwealth are struggling. they have had enough of that. hadpeople of kentucky have enough of you fighting desperately to keep your job while doing nothing to help keep jobs in kentucky with 5700 in the coal gone alone in the last two years. it is unacceptable. we have had enough. i find it interesting why are you leaving with all of your supporters here? apparently, he wants to beat the crowd. mitch mcconnell does not want people to actually hear they have an alternative. rhetorica lot of anti- about ending obamacare. obamacare is unpopular. stop talking about it. u.s.tart voting in the senate to kill it by defunding it. be a man. stand up and put your money where your mouth is. the people of kentucky deserve better. asch mcconnell is known mudslinging mitch because the only thing he has been running on is destroying other pe

advisors thank you very much indeed for your time today very much appreciated. russia's controversial economic amnesty law has been back in focus this week the bill means a formal oil tycoon mikhail khodorkovsky and his business partner platter on the better of our serving in nine years sentence for foreign tax evasion charges and will now be released from prison two months early some of the economic crimes that qualify for amnesty include business fraud money laundering and tax evasion this new law has been embraced by the business community seen as a step towards making russia more investor friendly. and outside for some corporate news the owner of russia's biggest our minion producer roussel that a pastor is closing factories across russia i'm a ask the government for another bailout. so you provide a megaphone buys for the operator skull sell for one point two billion dollars. and this week russia's biggest carrier air flight to made the top five list of leading airlines in europe by revenue and now it's time to check in our markets desk going to find out what's been happening to the russian marke

and people who say it's amnesty, for goodness sakes, you know, these folks are paying a heavy price for having come here illegally or overstaying a visa. two things we have not mentioned. we establish an e verify system, from this point forward after this bill becomes law, who ever applies for a job in america must present a government i.d. with a photo. the employer enters this into a computer in the e verify system and watches for the photograph to come up. if the official government photograph for that name doesn't match the one they have in their hand, they can't be hired. so this is going to make the workplace a lot tougher and any employer who hires someone who doesn't match up, their subject to fines and penalties. and finally, i think it was hector who told the story about overstaying a visitors visa. 40% of the undocumented people in america overstayed their visas, visitors, tourists, whatever it may be. we are now going to have a system under this law that is going to track people not only as they come in on visas but as they leave on visa. so this is a toughen forcement bill,

amnesty. we have specific ideas for how come people and get right with the law. that means going on probation. you have it to go on certain terms of probation, pay fines, get a background check, learn english, learn civics and make sure we have independently identified we have secured the borders, and have an e-verify system in place. then and only then can that person get a legal work permit, no special faght way. if a person in this situation wants to get in the line to get a green card, like any other immigrant, but at the back of the line. we think that's the right way to go. that's the opposite of amnesty. and more importantly, bob, this step-by-step approach i think guarantees we are not in the same mess 10 years from now which is exactly what happened last two times we did immigration reform. we want to get it right and do what's right for national and economic security and our motivation is not what's good for us politically, because if we think like that we're not going to two it the right way.

question for nine hours under anti terror laws instant through confirmation from amnesty international so let's talk now to see you director of international law and policy widney brown joining us on the line from lynn i believe hi there would need thanks for being with us why has the incident provoked such a strong reaction from your good selves first of all. well the first thing is that the u.k. authorities abused their power in a specific law that seemed terrorism suspects to detain glenn greenwald's partner they kept him for nine hours and during that time if you refused to answer a question he would have been charged with a crime plus they confiscated a lot of his belongings since it's all about intimidation tell us a little more about this seven of the terrorism act two thousand. is it because it's big us all because it's open to being abuse what's the issue here it's absolutely open to being abused begin to team you at the airport or any other port they can keep you for nine hours without having to get permission from a judge to teen you you're not entitled to legal representation and you cannot you cannot

. >> reporter: the immigrant we introduced to you in the beginning would probably have qualified for amnestynder obama's immigration reform. not now with a fraud mark on his record. >> they are all residents now and they're moving guard to naturalization because they did things right. he didn't do it right and he is paying a very heavy price. >> reporter: facing deportation, he left for venezuela where he said he was kidnapped and robbed. he still worries about the venezuelan gangs. >> even if you are bad here, illegal is better than there. >> for many years ice agents rub stamped applications from people who said they were fleeing from cuba. officials see this loophole has a significant national security risk. they don't know who these people really are. they have made about 40 arrests in the last year in the miami area. they're starting to see people trying to submit fake cuban paper work along the mexican border to. some of these fakes are so good that people are even fooling the cuban government by using them to get real cuban passports. >>> there was once a time when all it took to make

amnesty. that's my next question, do you guys think -- who are we kidding with the nfl.very offensive and defensive lineman is on every kind of steroid they can imagine. those guys are not natural human beings. ok? enhancements. i don't regularly watch baseball, although when i did, i was a "the young turks" fans. if you get rid of all these athletes, you're going to have slightly more boring baseball. i think. cenk: unfortunately, the reason i care is that people are -- the people who cheat in every field have won, and it's almost become the american way now. if you cheat in banking, you win. if you cheat in baseball, you win. if you cheat anywhere, you win. if you don't cheat and try to help people, the bankers get away with it, bradley manning faces 136 jurors in prison. >> there's a big difference, though. it's baseball, who cares, right? but in banking and everything, that harms other people. cenk: all right, we'll leave it there at who cares. one final point when we come back. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turk

amnesty. >> neil: ronald reagan, for whom you worked, was famous for -- he -- what of that? >> what have we gotten with 7 are 80%. if barren i'll take 70%. but when you're announcing in advance, we're only half of one -- just surrendered. when he is saying, we will not shut down the federal government, he just surrendered. hide your cards and play tough, man. >> neil: you talk about changing the constitution. leaving aside the constitutional purists saying when you start that, thankfully you're going to hurt the constitution, because you're changing it willy-nilly. you say? >> the constitution is being changed willy-nilly all the time. everytime the supreme court meets, and we sit here in june on the edge of our chair with some breathtaking decision that has no constitutional basis or very, very thin basis, that is amending the constitution, when the president of the united states, as today, suspends some part of a federal law or chooses not tone force another part of the federal law because he disagree -- >> neil: has he broken the law? >> yes. >> neil: the law is null and

all of those questions do not require amnesty. you can get all of the economic benefits that people talk about in fixing our broken immigration system without giving amnesty at this time. that is the position we support. unfortunately in this environment right now, the moment something passes the house, the pressure on immigration, which has dissipated over the last couple of weeks and months, will immediately be back in the forefront. >> you can watch the entire interview with michael needham of heritage action form for america on newsmakers -- on "newsmakers" sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern and 6:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. what is interesting about washington in this age is that once you have that title, even if it is a very short title, even if you have been voted out after one term, you can stay in as a former chief of staff, a former congressman, former chief of staff to congressman x or y, and that itself is marketable. you are in the club. departurestriking from the days in which people would come to washington to serve, serv

amnesty. it is an insult. what it is saying is that the republican party is saying we can buy votes. it is an insult. host: thank youfor that comment. an event that c-span did not cover. we do try to have a broad balance of events. including a discussion of the bush institute, which may have seen earlier, looking at the panels, and the benefits of immigration reform. >> i understand how businesses see a bottom-line benefit. i'm not sure i get have a say bottom-line benefit in citizenship. the benefits of the individual, the economy, but a bottom-line for my restaurant, was the benefit of having people working for me to be citizens? >> it is a great question. we had to talk people through it. what if somebody is eligible for citizenship? are they here legally? take a deep breath. the first question, what the citizenship process? ok, through that process, people are learning additional skills. that bottom line impacted that. it really comes down to every business at the end of the day, yes there is a bottom-line impact. they want to be a part of the story. they want to tell a good story. it was attila good story to th

you know, all over this country. in tennessee, i think it's clear that we are not for an amnesty bill. ewhat the obama care of immigration. when you try to pass comprehensive reform you don't get things as we have seen with the president's health care law. i think the house will take an approach and take issues one by one and make them readable and understandable and make sure we get them right. i return to the fact if we enforced the laws on the books first we may not need as much reform as people think. >> congressman, thank you so much. we will be right back. aren't healthy unless you actually eat them ♪ multigrain cheerios. also available in delicious peanut butter. healthy never tasted so sweet. also available in delici♪us peanut butter. even superheroes need superheroes, and some superheroes need complete and balanced meals with 23 vitamins and minerals. purina dog chow. help keep him strong. dog chow strong. [ villain ] well mr. baldwin... it appears our journey has come to a delightful end. then i better use the capital one purchase eraser to redeem my venture miles for this tri

here, work their hineys off, the fear is that b granding them amnesty, those whoollow them, might be less incned toe as industrious. >> you right, we're not going to ship 11 million people back to their country. we need to do something, why we ould have a probationary-type status for them. neil: do you think that republicans are shooting themselves in the foot or looking callous when they argue this or does it hurt them or what? >> i think a lot of objects to immigration are not necessarily be on checks to immigration, per se, but to entitlement state, we hear a lot about compromise, why don't rublicans say, you democrats you want immigration reform, we need to cut the entitlement and work together and find a compromise, we can't just give it all to them, we need to cut the entitlement -- that is the problem. neil: i can barely do this. if you want to wed the 2 i don't know. where is this going. >> if republicans want to work with democrats there is a sector of democratic party that would like work with them very much. i don't know how m much republicans would want to work with organized labor, they are worried this will

anything you would like to ask a tea partier? >> ronald reagan in amnesty, as well. the problem is that ronald reagan would never have been supported by the tea party. that's a fact. >> that's not true. that's completely wrong and you know that. that is why we keep having moderates as the head of our ticket because of people like you. ronald reagan -- >> john: do you have a question? >> my other question is based on the poll that you said is if we keep having tea party, supposedly the people that vote in primaries, how did we get mitt romney? >> that's your side. >> my side is bigger than your side. we secure the border which we should, okay. >> it should already be done. the law is already in place thanks to ronald reagan. >> so we secure the border. what would you like to do with the 11 million undocumented people here today? >> well, ideally, it would be let's send them back to mexico. >> john: they're not all from mexico. >> from some other places. the majority of them. we need to find a way that makes an honest way to citizenship. what we have right now is broken