you don't have to sub is itize us like you do gm or aig. we're very profitable, we're very successful. but it does make sense for the government to go the extra mile on all these areas so that we can continue to build out domestically versus going overseas. >> host: peter cleveland, let's talk about tax rates. one of the issues is the foreign tax rate versus the american tax rate. what would intel like to have done with the tax system? >> guest: we'd like statutory rates to come down so that we can compete more effectively. oecd countries, many, many foreign nations have a much lower statutory tax rate. they have a much lower effective, marginal rate of taxation as well. we recognize there will be a trade-off. if you reduce those rates, then tax loopholes or expendtures as they're called, some will have to be closed. and that may, may not benefit us. but overall we want to compete against semiconductor companies in korea and elsewhere. we beat the competition right now. we're first class, we're number one, but tax rates are crucial. so as p