(anderson) and you were brought up in a catholic family. yeah, i was raised as a catholic, you know. and of course, i left the church at the age of 13 or 14. as most ex-catholics that i speak to, you know, they sort of leave the church at around that time. and i've always felt there was a, you know-- there's a basic conflict between what the church tells you and what your body tells you at that age. and if you're smart, you'll listen to your body. (paulson) and you mentioned that before this controversy, you were relatively unknown. yeah. a little more than a decade later, you are widely known and widely respected. so was that controversy a blessing or a curse? both. you know, why couldn't it be both? yeah. i mean, that's--but that's the nature of my work, that there is a lot of conflict and contradiction within the work, and certainly the way it's been perceived and seen, you know, outside of the studio is also conflicted. so who would be some of the artists that you looked to for inspiration early in your career? a lot of dead ones. but ea

and you were working at the time. who were you working for? >> my uncle tom. >> judge judy: your brother? >> good friend. >> judge judy: what were you doing for him? >> mowing lawns and orchard work. >> judge judy: and according to you, thomas, you had the bike at your dad's house, were putting money in a bank account, and your father was taking money out to pay off that bike. so far, right? >> yeah. >> judge judy: how much was the bike? >> $3,600. >> judge judy: how much did he pay back? >> $2,886. >> judge judy: so, he paid back $2,900, and, in addition, according to you, thomas, you purchased some equipment with your own money from your work. there came a time when you went to live with your mom, and you asked your father, "what was the payoff on the bike?" you wanted to pay it off, take it with you, and your father said no. and now you are suing him for all the money that you put into the bike and the equipment. your father says that you didn't follow through with the contract that you made with him and you're not getting the bike back and

you were saying that you didn't quite understand the scale of it all when did you finally get a clear realization that there was no return to the past. i don't agree when people say that perestroika failed it didn't fail it was disrupted railed stopped but still perestroika achieved a lot inside russia we had democracy free elections freedom of conscience private property freedom to travel abroad everything. there was so much openness the entire country was affected people realized they had finally got some freedom an opportunity to act in foreign affairs we put an end to the cold war we normalized our relationship with the u.s. we reunited germany we didn't send our tanks our troops there all our units in eastern europe stayed where they were and i will put you through this i suppose. so let's talk about foreign policy twenty five years ago you started the process of disarmament between the soviet union and the united states today president obama and medvedev are making further steps to get rid of nuclear arsenals do you think it will ever come to that world without nuclear weapons.

the one who brought down the soviet union you were awarded the nobel peace prize some say that you were at the last really a liberal of our time what do you think is your most important legacy. or should i think it is the fact that the world is no longer divided that it is mostly free from ideological antagonism this is perhaps the most important thing this creates conditions for further progress. people abroad love you and respect you a lot while russian seven different opinions what do you make of that fact that you are more appreciated abroad than. mine i think it's normal after all i worked in russia and many things started here it wasn't always easy many things did not work out the way we planned at the beginning when we made our first mistakes we didn't really explain to people what was going on and didn't get them involved in all those processes we were self-confident but in public politics i don't think we have ever lost a major battle. what about now what are your priorities in life. my priority is to help people realize that there are other people around them and conduct thems

you feel? >> the sans the -- fans were getting interviews. t you protest a child under or poverty or street violence? why don't you protest something meaningful? their response was that if you listen to the music, that is it right there. in this particular case, we want lupe fiasco in the mixed. this is humbling, liberating. tavis: the fans understand that you will speak truth to power. our friend at cornell west always reminds me that it is be telling the truth that allows suffering to speak. you are courageous in all of your projects in speaking the truth to power. i am wondering if there is a price to pay for that as an artist these days? >> i don't know. maybe for some. for me, a walk a line of fame and infamy. i walk the line of celebrity and not celebrity. there are things i can get away with that the artist above me might not be able to. some can speak more intelligently and a more direct. people will not even know that they are even saying it in a sense. this will never cracked over into me talking to tavis smiley. i don't fear the bac

it seems like you were born on a horse. t heroic dismount. i've been practicing that all day. >> jimmy: is that your steed? >> yes, i just bought him from a small man. i drove him here. >> jimmy: and what is his name, the steed? >> his name is rocket. >> jimmy: rocket? >> because he's so quick. he's fast. >> jimmy: we saw. he practically leaped out here. very good to see you. can you remind me, or tell me why you have asked me to dress like this? >> i thought this was your idea. you didn't -- i was wearing this because i was going to be on the horse and i'm terrified of horses. >> jimmy: there's no reason -- >> no reason. >> jimmy: i can barely hear anything you're saying for no reason? how about that? well, that is dumb. let me just try to put this. that looks natural, doesn't it? okay. yeah, perfect. >> you look good. >> jimmy: first of all, may i say that i went to see "your highness" and i laughed like a maniac from the whole movie. i thought it was fantastic. i think it's going to be a very big hit. >> thank you. [ chee

you were. you once lived in a car or couple times that i can leave was forged under understood by circumstances we couldn't find a place to rent the family as a group of seven children it was tough to find a place to rent so sometimes we have new cars you know it's interesting i grew up as the oldest of four boys a. three bedroom household one bathroom which thinking about it now in the. context of it and my dad was a union guy it worked and. you know it wasn't rich in fact the first couple years i remember he was selling encyclopedias door to door and we were living on. cheese from surplus place you know but so i'd seen both sides of that but i always felt growing up i never felt poor i agree with that i have to agree that it all in fact you know it seems i like that you said that because i too experienced it as an adventure yeah it wasn't that there was temper of ation but when i look back at it i saw i can see that it actually helped to strengthen me and to develop a sense of compassion so th

[ laughter ] you were also -- you were a guy who had raccoon eyes. don't know how you got rid of them. you used to have big black spots like elvis' mother underneath your eyes. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and you were a big mess. you appeared to be going bald but you seem to have hair -- >> jimmy: i take the black from my eyes and rub it into the top of my head. >> you look fabulous. >> jimmy: thank you. >> but in all seriousness, you became a guy -- i didn't feel uncomfortable having my wife around you, i didn't feel like you were going to steal my wife, you were out of shape. you were my kind of guy, you know what i mean? you were my kind of guy. and lo and behold, jimmy and i went to mexico together, at the time, you were with you girlfriend, i was with my wife. and we actually had a vacation. and jimmy was quite fun. he was a big lummox. he didn't like to go anywhere. just like me. i like to hide in my room. jimmy would hide in his room. it was kismet. i thought the two of us were getting along great. i found out you are a fun guy on vacation. >> jimmy: oh

and you were a big mess. bald but you seem to have hair -- >> jimmy: i take the black from my eyes and rub it into the top of my head. >> you look fabulous. >> jimmy: thank you. but in all seriousness, you became a guy i didn't feel uncomfortable having my wife around you, i didn't feel like you were going to steal my wife, you were out of shape. you were my kind of guy, you know what i mean? and lo and behold, jimmy and i went to mexico together, at the time, you were with you girlfriend, i was with my wife. we had a vacation. and jimmy was quite fun. he was a big lummox. he didn't like to go anywhere. i like to hide in my room, too. jimmy would hide in his room. it was kismet. i thought we were getting along great. i found out you are a fun guy on i have case. >> jimmy: oh, yes. >> we went to mexico, a place called one and only. i'll tell the audience -- you don't mind? >> jimmy: go ahead. >> yeah, so we were in mexico and jimmy, the place was beautiful and one of the things about this place was the service

is this the type of thing you were warning about. and are riders, are the republicans in the wrong for attaching these things right now? >> you probably think i'm paying more attention to this than i am, and your memory is a little better than mine. but i think as a general rule, it is better practice to do the people's business, try to concentrate on making ends meet. which washington obviously has failed to do for a long time. and have other policy debates in other places, if you can. >> so your advice to speaker boehner would be, you know what, we've made some political points, here, but take the riders out. save it for another part of the political discussion. >> he doesn't need any advice from me. but i would say that the financial and fiscal problems facing this country are of a level that i believe threatens not just our prosperity, but the survival of our republic. and really, i'm hoping and, that the congress and the administration will engage very seriously. i mean to see them arguing over nickels and dimes like this, is esp

you were going on before you knew about that. what i did with mine, i have never been to rahall parikh -- to rehab. i am sorry that there were not for peoplee that i knew for them to go to. i tell them all the time. what i did with mine, i have never been to rehab or psychotherapy or doctor. i went to church and i was sprayed for. -- prayed for. i have always had a great relationship with god. what i did is i turned it over. i get it out. i gave it to god. when you do that, i do not care what your affliction is. food, sex, drugs, whatever it is. if you really want to get rid of it, you cannot go to god and give him something -- if i could have gone to my family, there are people who love you enough to say, give it to me for a couple of weeks because it is killing you. i will take it on but there is nothing like that. they cannot do that. you cannot go to god the with nothing that he will not accept. he will not say last thursday i had an opening. do you know what i mean? tavis: you are preaching. if you are willing to do that, bec

you were either, you know a check-in person. you were a greeter. you were part of the license issuing unit. you were deputy marriage commissioner, or you were on the recording side. each one of those functions required a different set of skills, a different oath of office if they needed to be sworn in as a deputy county clerk to issue marriage licenses or as a deputy county recorder if they were going to register the marriage licenses or the deputy marriage commissioner if they were going to be performing ceremonies. >> donna, place the ring on her ring finger. >> the marriage commissioner training was only about a half hour. it was very simple. very well run, very smooth and then we were all sworn in. >> they said we would get our scheduled sunday night and so 7:00, 8:00, 10:00, you know, i got it at 11:00. this person who was orchestrating all of the shifts and the volunteers and who does what, you know, said from her office sunday night at 11:00. they are just really helping each other. it's a wonderful atmosphere in that way. >> have you filled

you were with other women while we were together? yeah, didn't you see them on -- i personally can't wait for next year when brad is the bachelor again. they say the third time is the charm. [ laughter ] but it is very sad when these relationships don't work out and they never work out. when this one goes, like i think it will, "the bachelor" will be 1 for 15, which is -- the clippers laugh at that record. and tonight, it seems fitting that we take time to look back and say good-bye to the love that wasn't. ♪ ♪ >> jimmy: i didn't know that about them. i guess they fell in love. so there you go. we have a great show for you. tonight we'll introduce the new bachelorette and her name rhymes with snooki -- no, her name is snooki. so -- did i ruin it? oh. and then if that does well we'll announce a new bachelorette every monday night on the show. speaking of things that didn't work out "spider-man: the musical" has been delayed again, the sixth time the show has rescheduled. its 0 official opening. after a series of brutal reviews looking

and you were kind of out of luck. >> this is how you were thinking about it in bensonhurst? > well, yeah, ten, 12, 14 years old, when you're deciding what you think you might be good at, what you might want to do. i didn't know whether the doors were going to be opened just a crack, wide open, locked closed, because, "hey, we already have one, so we don't need any more." and at different times, in the intervening 30 years, all those things have been true. some companies feel, "hey, we got one, you know. we'll put him on those pictures that television stations put in their lobbies, and we're covered. and we're cool, and that's it. and we don't have to look any more." >> right. >> and that's been the reality, too, as well as places sort of getting religion and saying, "no, this is great. where do we get more?" >> you know ray, i want to talk to you, though, about growing up in new york as a puerto rican. it's hard to say, but you know that many people across the country, who don't know about puerto ricans, still, in this day and age, think puerto ricans, think bad things. >> oh

but you were never known as that in the ring. and you say you connect that with stuttering. >> guest: i do. because it wasally hassan who stumbled upon me while we were getting ready to jump out of airplanes while serving in the military. and rather than just stumbling away, this person stopped and made me realize that i had a problem, that my inability to talk and my feelings of frustration and sense of low self-esteem were inextricably linked. so ali hassan engaged my entire being. in many respects, he maim by teach -- became my teacher, you know, he became my career counselor. the first thing he did for me was to help me to understand myself. he helped me put my house back in order. he enrolled me in one of the first dale carnegie courses given at the institute of economics in manheim, germany. he helped me channel my energies in positive directions. he introduced me to boxing as a discipline and as a career rather than simply as a way of venting my pent-up anger and frustration. so any kind of autobiography or any kind of book

. >> host: now, you say that you were in jail 40-something years. what do you mean by that? >> guest: well, i was in jail 47 years. the fact that we are born into a prison, actually, when we are born, we're born as perfect beings, perfect meaning complete with all of our possibilities intact. but we're also born into a world of sleeping people, the level of unconscious human insanity where hate and war and death and destruction and inequality reign supreme. so we are actually born into a prison. so i was in, i was in that prison for the first 40 years of my life until i was able to wake up and get out of that prison. and realize who i really am. .. >> triple racist murder is doubly bad and that's what i was accused of being. a triple racist murderer. >> host: racist? why a racist? >> guest: because all white people were child >> host: and there was a charge that you had somehow targeted them because of their race? >> guest: because of their race. because a black bartender was killed by a white man in another part of town, they thought it was a racially binge motive. but you

>> they were just like, "dad, are you still listening to the che music?" f that stuff. >> hinojosa: what were you listening to? >> well, there's a lot of music about him, you know? he's a central character in a lot of folk songs, and i was listening to those, i was listening to music from obviously golba and argentina, so i was really sort of trying to get my head into that space. and you know, i often think of writing as a form of self-hypnosis, you know? you almost go into a trance, and as it were... when you're really, you know, working really well. >> hinojosa: that's hard for kids. >> yeah, yeah, it's hard, but it's doable. hinojosa: why do you think... i mean, now, again, every country that i've been to around the world-- most recently, bangladesh-- somebody wearing a che t-shirt. >> oh, yeah. >> hinojosa: what is it about che? i mean, you spent time with the young che. >> yeah. >> hinojosa: what do you think about the fact that so many people... and actually, do you think that people now actually know what che really stands for? >> stood for, yeah. i

you said you were working late. u just tweeted you were at the movies. >> you can't lie anymore, that's for sure. >> i'm analog in a digital age. there is definitely a certain -- it brings people who would not be in the same space together. but if you are -- >> that's it, we have those invisible walls. >> lola, amanlda, david, thank you for being here. >> up next, this singer is using gospel music to help people live better. >> i want them to know they're so important to their families we don't want to live this life without them. wrench? wrench. basic. preferred. at meineke i have options on oil changes. and now i get free roadside assistance with preferred or supreme. my money. my choice. my meineke. ♪ >>> welcome back to "our world with black enterprise." last year, yolanda adams was recognized as the number one gospel artist of the decade. today, she's using the power of wholistic faith to save lives. yolanda adams is our "slice of life." >> lift your hands! >> with the voice of an angel and the character to back

some of you were here. in the 2000's, many of you were here. again we have to take our country on a path of deficit reduction. many of you were here when the tax cuts for the high end were implemented, creating no jobs except increasing our deficit, sending the bill to our children, and the credit to the chinese government. how about when we did the prescription drug bill, giving away the store to the pharmaceutical industry and the price tag to our children by increasing the deficit. how about two wars, unpaid for wars? god knows we will do anything to protect and defend our people, and i would hope that everybody subscribes to that. why would we have tax cuts for people at the highest end, why wouldn't they pay their fair share of protecting the american people and american interests and their interests wherever they may exist in the world? and so we had in the eight years of president bush's administration, a complete reversal, an $11 trillion swing, a $5.6 trillion in surplus to nearly $5 trillion in debt. and now people are saying, the nat

and you know we were. i think he's been doing a good job so far by the way i met with him when he was in moscow i told him your approval rating is still high that's great but remember as soon as you get to some real big issues it'll drug you should be ready for that moment he said i understand that i think the fact that he got his health care bill approved is terrific but rich republicans don't like it i admire him because when things got hot for example when they had to get the new start treaty ratified he got involved personally he talks to people and about twelve senators changed sides and sided with the democrats and eventually the treaty was ratified i wish him good luck what would you say is the difference between twentieth century and twenty first century politicians that's what you could not depends on politicians we take as examples if we take hitler then every politician of the twentieth or the twenty first century is very different from him if we talk about the one nine hundred eighty s. it was

if you were from the south and your mother was young when you were conceived, you were probably given to a relatively. no child was turned away, just another aunt or cousin took you into the home. i was given to my mother's older sister. she developed tuberculosis. by the time i was three respect sh, she wasdead. from there, it was a long road. i was moved from place to place, relative to relative, not thought of as a bad thing, just the way things were done with poor people in the south. in the end, when i finally realized that i had not ever had a real home or a real room or a real bed, and i looked at a picture of when i was 16 -- i grew up in berkeley. my girlfriends were having sweet 16 parties. i decided to have a sweet 16 party. there is a picture of us all looking elegant around this table. there was one lightbulb in the chandelier. i realized for three years, i had slept in that bed all through high school. i never thought of it other than that was my life. i think that's one reason i wanted to record this. people see someone like me and think, the red carpet must have been r

always remember when you were number one there's a great responsibility that comes with that actually though you can't give a single politician credit for everything so there is always a group of people who realize the challenges of their time they understand what is going on in the world. do you think has the potential to become a politician of the twenty first century. we'll have to wait and see but no one you can name at this point. no i would not give that title to anyone for now they have to earn it no one praised else until we walked the talk today's politicians are not even at the talking point yet but what matters is what they will do the steps they will take their policies we know from history that every time there was a new challenge and you leader would emerge sometimes they emerge too late after some damage was done we have to avoid that we have to act in time. too many people you create a major role in many important events the unification of germany the end of the cold war perestroika some people say that you are the one who brought down the soviet union you were awarded

when you were a college student, who was your role model and who did you find influential? >> i am an international student from taiwan. when you are at age 25, why did you think the white house wanted to hire you from being a weather girl? [laughter] i really want to know. >> see if you can do all three in one minute. >> ok, the woman i admire the most -- i have a mother and and who are intrepid. at the white house, i have no idea what they thought i was going to do. i did not be there. -- i did not either. i was not just a bad weather girl, i did not have contact lenses and i did not deal with the west coast because i could not see the west coast. i had big glasses. [laughter] look up yourself. what was the third question? i still have a photograph of memory but i don't have same-day service. >> covering tragedy. >> thank you very much, you young whippersnapper variant [laughter] . [laughter] >> it pulverizes you. it practically takes you down. if you believe that your job is to make other people feel something and maybe respond, then you just pick yourself up and go do i

could you tell our audience how, perhaps, you were either involved politically or how you saw all of this? a very reflective, introspective writer. >> well, in many ways, she let, for me i was a little bit down to go anywhere during debate years when people were heading to washington. in many ways i think the let -- lessons of witnessing -- and mark is absolutely right. i remember those images from first and second grade of marchers in the south and hearing chum by yet sang about the for murdered girls. those were powerful images and stories for me. when i was much older boy, in the 80's, i woke up one morning and there was a little tiny item, not on the front page, but the back page of my new hampshire newspaper mentioning happily, reporting on the good news that our area of new hampshire had been selected as one of 14 finalists for the first in the nation with a high-level nuclear waste dump. this was going to bring jobs. i wasted. i was a mother of three very young children at that point. supporting my family as a writer living in the country. i was also -- my identity was not that

ferner he's the national president of veterans for peace mike very good evening from moscow well you were just unanimously passed a resolution isn't calling for a no fly zone over libya and it's moving its warships we hear even close to libyan shows so do you think this is the precursor then for military intervention in brackets the oil rich country well unfortunately it does look that way no fly zone is there's a lot more involved with that than just not having people fly their airplanes through it it's going to require military action in order to even institute the no fly zone so. sensually the the senate's vote could be seen as an act of war . all right now just looking back in history books if we recall back in two thousand and three libya then agreed to destroy all of its chemical nuclear and biological weapons after months of secret talks the time when u.s. and british officials now. however though the very same states won't those very same stockpiles as the saying secure it does but as a quick beg the question how can you secure what's already apparently already been destroyed year

you. >> were you aware that the subject property encroaching on to your property? >> when they were doing the construction? >> no, the previous building that was there extended over your property line. you were aware of that? >> yes. it was attached to the property but i did not know that it was set back by a foot and 6 inches from my own property line, so i thought that the site pillar touching the front of my house was ok and it was actually touching the property line. >> you also have a gap between when you came back from your travels, about a month before you actually requested jurisdiction. >> that is correct. >> can you explain that? >> sure. i had been living at my in-law'' house so i was not of my property all of the time. there is no construction for it being performed. i thought that the planning department was looking into my concerns. >> did you get notice of neighborhood outreach meetings held in january? >> no. i believe the only notice i got subsequent, i came back from my trip was the one from the board of appeals and the appeal procedure. there was

you were in that meeting. i wonder, did you expect to be invited? does that tell you anything about the pace or the tenor of the negotiations going on right now? >> well, i'm glad the president is involved, finally. i think it is helpful to have vice president on the hill. his old stomping grounds, meeting with leadership. this was an elected membership on the part of the house and senate. and i'm glad they are at it. >> so do you think that they are likely to make much progress in merging the divide between house republicans who have asked for a $61 billion worth of cuts from this year's budget and democrats who have said that they want a freeze for this year's budget or maybe $10 million under that? >> that's just it. we don't know what the senate has in mind. i believe in regular order. we have passed our bill. it is up to the senate to pass a bill, and they will go to congress and work out the differences. that's the way we do business. the senate hasn't acted. we don't know what they have in mind. for the moment, the only thing on the floor is

they were, you know, running, kids in the hall. and it was the kind of comedy-- the only kind of comedy that we were really into. we didn't want to take it to mtv and have it become a kids show, which is, you know, all mtv really is anymore: nickelodeon. so, you know, that really wasn't a hard decision, you know? we knew that because they were airing the pythons, that still had that kind of material that was just as edgy as anything we've ever done, if not, edgier. there was a moment where you were ushered into a room, i'm sure, to watch the pilot. what was your gut reaction when you first saw it? brilliant; i thought it was funny. and to me, you know, funny is really the common denominator. you can do a lot of shows that have expression, but bottom line, it has to be funny. not only was it funny, you know, it was so unique and groundbreaking, provocative, you know, all the things that are in our "mission statement," you know, for the network: a unique point of view, intelligent, and very, very funny. and we looked and immediately k

and, you know, i look back-- 11 years ago, we were in one city, you know, one event. it's now 11 years later; this year there were 1,400 places in the world that did 5,000 events. we raised $70 million... >> hinojosa: wow! >> ...and that's all happened through grass-roots activists in their local communities standing up, finding their vagina warrior power to end violence and take back their bodies. and, you know, i wish you could see some of these women who have been doing the show and doing, you know, v-day for maybe five years-- they're fierce, and they're loving, and they're funny, and they're sexy, and they're alive, and they're into pleasure, and they're running for office. and they're, you know... and they're coming into power in a whole new kind of way. >> hinojosa: well, i guess this leads us into your own story. you were growing up in, what you like to call a wonderfully secure, suburban america-- scarsdale, new york; white picket fence, the whole thing... >> literally. >> hinojosa: literally. but there wasn't a lot of dialogue about what was happening behind

. >> host: you say you were in jail 40 something years. what do you mean by that? >> guest: i was in jail -- the fact that we are born into a prison actually, when we are born we are complete with all of possibilities in tact but we are also born into a world of sleeping people where he ate and war and death and destruction and inequality remains free so we are actually born into prison. i was in the prison for the first 40 years of my life until i was able to wake up and get out of that prison and real lives who i really am. >> host: what's come to review are in a second but you were actually incarcerated in prison for about 20 years, 1964 or five? 66. 66 to 85. and the charge was having murdered three people and wounded one in of ar. >> guest: yes, it's just not having murdered somebody. it to be accused of murder is bad enough, but to be accused of being murdered is doubly bad and that was accused of being, a racist murderer. >> host: white racist? >> guest: >> host: was the charge you somehow targeted because of their race? >> guest: because of their race. beca

. >> rose: do you think they'll keep him on? >> well, if i were them i'd keep him on bauds he's outstanding. >> rose: do you think state capitalism will be the model for the future? the economic model for the future? >> for china? >> rose: for many countries that might want to follow china. >> state capitalism is not as effective as private capitalism. would you stay awake until 2:00, 3:00, in the morning because you want your state with a crisis? >> rose: no. >> so you wake up tomorrow morning knowing your salary is intact. in other words, your capital and your shares... there are stakes involved and the other stakeholders also make sure you're on the ball, you've got to stay focused. so i believe very strongly that private capitalism easily outdoes state capitalism. >> rose: define what singapore has. >> more and more private capitalism. >> rose: more and more? >> we started off with state capitalism because we did not have the entrepreneurs. our entrepreneurs are traders and traders have no capital and do not have the foresight or capability to

we were actually a "saturday night live" skit. >> you were not that bad. >> we were pretty bad. we had to figure it out as we went along. >> i want to ask you about social media. we have seen and discussed a lot of that and it has played a rather major role in the coverage of some of these stories melodies. -- in the middle east. you have used footage provided by people you do not know pointing in this direction when something even more important might have been happening behind the person has -- holding the camera. how do you feel about using that kind of material on your show when you really do not know the origin of a lot of the stuff? >> we always tell you where we got it. that we got it through youtube. >> that does not mean -- and >> by understand that. but are be worse do know the different frames of pedigree that you have. we do also call and do our very best to verify everything that we're putting on the air. >> it is a question when you get into something so fast-moving and to pick up footage because you do not have your own people. the tendency on television is to show

tavis: you were just doing. >> i say to my wife, don't look at me. tavis: since you went there, how does fatherhood -- how do you navigate that, when you were a father 30-plus years ago? >> i'm better now. i'm better. because you know more and you're more grateful. i wasn't a bad father but i'm -- i don't know, i feel like these kids are my mentors now. they're my best teachers. there's no one happier to see you in the morning. that's good. not even my dog. my dog can't see. a little old. tavis: what do your -- what do 1 1/2-year-olds teach you since they're your mentors? >> joy. i mean they're really happy. everything is like -- when is the last time you did that? >> yeah. tavis: obviously when i walked on. when i saw you had all of that weight loss. that's exactly what i did. >> right. tavis: i better hurry up and get to these films. you're the only person on the show in i don't know how long who i have to talk about three dub -- three -- >> unbelievable. not including the porno stuff that i'm doing. tavis: i'm trying to figure out when you made bab

to have the ability to do what you were doing. even if they didn't want to publicly be known for that? >> chancellors or superintendents come to michelle and ask her what she was really doing, you know, and what was the message to her, you know, not madness but, you know, and was that something that they could emulate? is that the gist of it? right. >> i had mostly people who were just coming into their jobs who were trying to get a lay of their land and trying to understand, i think, before they really got up and running what the challenges were, why i made the decisions that i made, was i happy with those or not? lots of folks who came to me to ask about school closures. when we closed the 23 schools in d.c., no other district had ever closed anything close to that in one shot. and then after we did that actually in a number other cities that did occur so we definitely got a lot of questions about the school closures in particular. >> michelle, what did you think of the arbiter's decisions of the day before yesterday. and why hav

choose not to remember the days that you were getting those nos before you were getting yeses? >> you always remember those days and it helps you, i think, because -- most of us -- most actors get those days much more than not. for example, this show i'm in now is the first show that i have ever been in that has this kind of acclaim. tavis: come on. you had -- >> "married with children" was not the same experience. that was on a network that took a lot of years to get off the ground that didn't get the critical success that this show is getting. it was a different audience, for example. tavis: i'll debate you on this. >> i'm not going to argue too hard. tavis: you have to redefine acclaim to me. the show ran 11 seasons? >> 10 1/2 seasons. tavis: 11 seasons, everybody knows in the country you can't walk down the street without being called mr. bundy. >> that was a debate job and i loved "married with children." i loved doing it. it took me out of the -- tavis: i'm worried. >> took me out of the system. tavis: yeah. >> and that's what i wanted, more than anything else. i wanted t

we going to have to change our definition in your remarks you know it's kind of it going on what you were saying here rachel in if you don't agree with you to jump in there john. i mean the what rachel kind of really repeated kind of is something we've heard for a long long time for democracy is equated with the west i mean we do see a divergence in that right now because that may not be the case as we move forward and i think we would all agree even though we disagree on many points what's being played out is going to take a long long time i think it's one of the most certain signs of intellectual intellectual bankruptcy of the west and particularly of the united states that indeed the phrase progress to democracy is regarded as a player nasm it is regarded as self-evident that any democratic country will be pro western or to make to put the point in even more in an even worse light in the light which i think it deserves countries are judged to be democratic to the extent that they are pro-west in other words their foreign policy orientation is sufficient for them to qualify as democrati

that's how i laugh. >> i'm glad you were laughing. >> jimmy: you say i laugh like a cackle?ybe he's just covering cause nobody was laughing. >> jimmy: no i was love it, i was laughing at everything. >> thank you. >> jimmy: and really, you'll be able to knock socrates, and be like, shh. let me talk. i got it. [ laughter ] he doesn't do this in the one man show. he doesn't stop everybody -- >> the one man show is not like this, it's smooth. >> jimmy: your one man show, "long story short" -- >> the one man show is smooth. >> jimmy: it's smooth. it really is. it's like a cool cigarette. >> it flows. >> jimmy: it's like a menthol cigarette. >> it is like a menthol cigarette, exactly. >> jimmy: you started -- >> what the hell's a matter with you? no, go ahead. >> jimmy: you started training with comedians on broadway, chris rock, robin williams, jim gaffigan, kathy griffin. you started the whole thing. >> you're damn right i did. you're damn straight. >> jimmy: what's your problem. >> i got a lot of problems. >> jimmy: i know -- what is one of them right now, you got stuck on hbo

if you look at what the arbitrator's doing, he said, yeah, these people were not good, right? and if you look at what we are -- i still say we, can i still say we? we. what we are required to do in order to remove a probationary teacher from their position, what the letter of the law states we absolutely met. what he was saying we did not do which is an explanation of why to the teachers, that's nowhere in the requirements. of what is necessary. so i have no idea what that man was thinking. in fact, we were actually, you know, advised by our counsel, you know, when you have terminations, you actually don't go into long things with people about why and what not. that, you know, you meet the letter of the law, and that's exactly what happened. so i think that decision was absolutely incorrect. i'm confident that it's, it is appealed and will be turned over. >> other questions? [inaudible] we have a question. elizabeth? >> i have ten. [laughter] i'm curious of the fellow journalists, how do you react to this narrative of your tenure, and what is the one thing that you would have t

they could not care one less if you were white or black. let mayor bloomberg tell you what their value is, the money. in new york, every night, racism raises its ugly head and you have these killings, racial profiling, like we had sean bell. anyway, we see racial profiling. one of my neighbors said, yes, they are always going to find a psychological reason why the white child is bad, but an african-american or child of color is just a badass. that is true. they do not think you have any value. they think you do not know what life is, you do not have any goals or dreams. you know why i am telling you that? i am basing it on my family. i wanted you all to know that my grandson graduated and will be the first doctor in my family. [applause] i do not like to put labels on it, but i want to thank all the liberal white people that helped us in the 1950's that helped us get through this struggle and social change and help america get rid of some of -- one of their flaws. just like my sister said, it is a cosmetic change. we still have got to work o

you had gotten into harvard, you were a brilliant student. what did they say when you said you were dropping out? >> my parents were used to strangeness. i had been breaking them then, slowly but surely. my senior year of high school, i skipped because there was a job that i was being offered, which was an amazing job, to work on a very complicated computer project. i got to work with some really brilliant people, so i got to learn a lot more. the people i worked with said i should skip college and go and get a ph.d. i went to my parents and said i think i am going to skip college. they said actually, you should go to college. that was good advice, because in terms of social development, i never finished my social development, but it helped. [laughter] >> i am tollner when you are in high school you prepared a program that enables you to get in classes with mostly girls. is that true? >> they were nearby, and they tended to be the better looking girls, for some reason. i decided when the classes would meet, who was in the classes. it was a sem