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they have --be young pioneers, and it one group decides they do not want to do that and they form a youeterground group, have just created another group of political opponents from apolitical teenagers. >> read more of our conversation with anna applebaum and other q&a programs in "sundays at eight." now available for father's day gift edgar favorite bookseller. -- add your favorite bookseller. "washington journal" continues. host: representative sheila jackson-lee joins us. guest: thank you. a dozen senate democrats have called for eric shinseki to step down. what is your view? american is a great and he has served his country and served his country well. i had the opportunity to sit in on a veterans committee hearing. i have a veterans hospital in my region. think the general should come on behalf of this country that he loves, step aside. on behalf of the president that he serves, step aside. is that this is at a crisis moment that really needs a crisis response. that has not occurred. that is not a reflection on his love of his work and the veterans. there is no doubt that he has work