act, youfordable care asked him about that. >> i thought his answer was really interesting, because when you have people making projections, you want to know if they were right or wrong in retrospect. and his point was, we may never know. the affordable care act sort of change health-care spending landscape so much that it is hard to measure what things would be like in absence of it ever existing. my sense is that they feel pretty comfortable with where they are. obviously, there have been so many changes after the law was passed, and continue to be changes from the administration, that it is probably hard to exactly measure what the impacting cost will be. but my sense is that this is a legacy issue. for obama, it's kind of going to be a legacy issue -- for obama. it's going to kind of be a legacy issue for mr. elmendorf when he leaves office. >> is mr. elmendorf leaping, saying? >>leaving, that is a good question. the situation is more confusing because he came in on an unexpired term when he started in 2000 and nine -- 2009. my guess is that he would not stay for a while. elmendorf i