so, youknow, to caroline's point, my gosh, stimulus spending is wonderful, helpful, it's so great. i don't see -- i'm scratching my head to see that the unemployment number whether you looked the at the u-6 number, the people that have given up looking for jobs or look at the raw unemployment number has done nothing since he took office in january of '09, that stimulus spending helps somehow. in fact, i don't see how you can mak the argument the government picking industries to prosper like the whole wind farm thing, as opposed to oil and coal, is a good effective use of money. >> brenda: okay, caroline? >> becse oil and coal, why do you think these oil and coal industrs are so successful? they got funds upfront from the government. we've actually developed every major energy source and now moving to gre energy and you're saying we shouldn't invest in it. >> the government has developed every major energy source? my gosh, and-- >> hold on, guys, go ahead. >> and oil-- >> right, the only reasonhat these major entities, alternative energies get developed and they're alternative at th