this is not some kind of benign entity.= >> yousef munayyer, your final response?t's the reality is, between river and see, there are a least 10 million people, almost half of them are palestinian arabs. the vast majority of which have no right to vote for the state that controls them. that is the reality on the ground. if our friend here wants to call that democracy, i think we should probably be engaged in a profession of rewriting dictionaries. that is not with that is. that is the fact of apartheid. the u.s. has only helped perpetuate the situation by telling the israelis there are no costs to occupation and that may perpetual occupation an option. >> thank you for being with us, yousef munayyer, executive director of the jerusalem fund, its educational program, the palestine center. and james colbert, policy director for the jewish institute for national security affairs. at least nine palestinians have been killed in air strikes so far today, bringing the palestinian death toll to 146, up to 21 people injured in a bus bombing in the israeli city of tel levee.