but first, yuan yang, how would you outline china's media strategy and its ambitions?thanks for having me on. there has been a really big push, particularly after the us—china trade war in 2018, for chinese state media employees not only to speak to a chinese audience using the controlled media environment within china, but increasingly to reach out to an english—speaking audience and to a foreign audience more widely, including on foreign social media platforms like twitter that are in fact censored or banned in china. and what the propaganda push has now turned towards is this idea of providing different narratives, including, some might argue, misinformation or misleading narratives about china's role in the world. this comes, of course, at a time when china's global investments and global partnerships have become active across the world and are increasing. china is seeking a way of countering narratives of fear of chinese companies elsewhere in the world. so how would you categorise the overall strategic goal? what does china want out of this, beyond us seeing the

we are also joined by howard zhang from bbc news chinese, and yuan yang from the financial times.hua kurlantzick, author of beijing's global media 0ffensive, china's uneven campaign to influence asia and the world. joshua, thank you very much forjoining our discussion. i'm wondering if you can help me assess where this has worked best, because i note in the title of your book you describe china's campaign as uneven. so, where has it worked and where has it struggled? well, i think it's worked well in taking over chinese language media virtually all over the world, including in the uk, canada and many other places where there is almost no independent chinese language media left, either through chinese actual state actors buying in stakes or a local citizens of the countries buying up those chinese language properties in the us, australia, the uk, canada, and many places in southeast asia where there are a lot of chinese language readers and listeners, and changing the content almost exclusively pro—beijing and firing basically all the independent reporters and coverage, so that's b

us, and we are alsojoined by haines, you are with us, and we are also joined by howard zhang and yuan yange world. thank you very much indeed forjoining our discussion. i'm wondering if you can help me assess where this has worked best? because i note in the title of your book you china's campaign is uneven. so where has it worked and where has it struggled? well, i think it has _ where has it struggled? well, i think it has worked _ where has it struggled? well, i think it has worked well - where has it struggled? well, i think it has worked well in - think it has worked well in taking over chinese language media virtually all over the world, including in the uk, canada and many other places where there is almost no independent chinese land was media left, either through chinese actual state actors buying in steaks or local citizens of the countries buying up those chinese language properties in the us, australia, the uk, canada and many places in southeast asia where there are a lot of chinese language listeners and changing the content to almost exclusively pro—beijing, and firing basic