if we just left yugoslavia alone, it would have had impact not just on the -- the six republics of yugoslavia, but into hundred -- hungary in a time we dealt with the restructure of europe, but border issues would have been affected. you would have seen the countries of the region and the european region affected by the disaster that would have occurred. the intervention ended up being a very constructive policy to take in. we should up -- i think we do now look rigorously at alternatives, but a second one i want to mention is a case of when i was director for european analysis. one was an imagery analysis that was before the nga was established and civil war -- closely associated with us and the directer of intelligence, and ted holt was hid name, a very dead at a cayed im-- dedicated image ray, went through all the archived images of bos bosnia with the goal to e what it would tell us about the accountability for ethnic cleansing, and when he finished or they finished the work, it showed that if the pattern going through several hundred villages in bosnia was the orthodox churches and const

it was nato that bombed yugoslavia and he was again it was a policy that was pushed by a few of the nato powers so you have no real real business deeming this somehow the will in the actions of the international community as well as a kind of there's dishonesty in the use of this international community there is no way that you can actually arrogated solve international community when you only represent a very small group of self interest that powers ok georgia and i'd like to clarify here when we look at libya not even all members of nato participated in that operation so it's even less than what nato was i'm certain members of nato mind you but if i go to talk about iran because it seems like the international community if you look at it at the term beyond the washington consensus is very much in support of iran's position on having civilian nuclear power but if you look at the israeli position obviously in the american one it's very much at odds with what i would call the genuine international community go ahead. right again i think it depends. what we mean exactly by the interna

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in in in yugoslavia i think the situation has improved from the moment. general de international balance of power is not dissin and also ukrainian people are very white interim majority and we so it's not what we saw it earlier i mean derision reasons for tensions in ukraine were always very high but always it was solved in a peaceful way this professor addressed before france's national institute of recent studies thanks ever so much for time on the line there from paris ok thank you very much. ok let's focus in on syria there al qaeda linked rebels have reportedly abducted hundred twenty kurds from a village close to the turkish border the news was reported by the u.k. based observatory for human rights who said all captives were taken to an unknown location in the same as a representative of the kurdish democratic union party in syria he's calling on the international community to protect his people. terror group. related to. you about them not on the islamic state we're trying to persuade that international community and the home are rights organizati

the work in the former yugoslavia that's ongoing now has benefited greatly by advances in genetics. lynn's been over to the lab and seen what they're doing. in many times we were working in the lab with general tises, so as we get these commingled remains, we'd help sort, we'd help match, because today it's not possible to test every little bit of bone. that's not reasonable. but in the initial sorts that we would do and then working with the geneticist to try to do a positive i.d., it's collaborative work. no one is the real superhero in these labs, even though they make it sound that way, that we come in and, you know, identify these individuals. along with that has been amazing work with databases, stripping identities, and working with the families. i think the former yugoslavia has been particularly challenging in that you would have all the men in a family and extended family had died, somewhere in the same gray, and so trying to get those matches from families that had moved to the united states, moved to other parts of the world, was icmp a heroic effort by and various human

bringing good stuff for ukraine because today in breakaway yugoslavia in each republic they have a great memory of the past and they all say we lived much better before than really know they say how come you are now in europe be don't know but it was much better but also like the catalyzer of when you become so famous all of a sudden won the palme d'or it was because of the western viewer who sell your movie and who claim a contradiction here i am not in the cause of the accident in my best of you is that all the problem of our eastern perception of the rest is that we believe that. vest and world is unified from the top to the bottom they think the same go to paris and finishing in four o'clock in the morning different budget will see how much they hate the politics. so this mess. this groups of people are like us normal people those who govern they think about behalf of billions as the slaves he says they could even kill to be guilty. when you speak with everything you do you have this complete inner freedom right in your feelings your music the way you speak to people but you have the

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i was born in czechoslovakia and by accident my father was the ambassadors to yugoslavia. therefore i understood said, croatian, and knew what the area was about and i understood the ethnic bling. a pure accident of history that that happened, that would have been a major issue out there, that in fact we had to deal with along with iraq sanctions, we had to deal with and i came, most of my colleagues are younger than i am and they are very much a part of the vietnam generation. when neville chamberlain said why should we care about people in faraway places with unpronounceable names? will come with our own background and i'd think it is important as one studies history and decisionmaking, what is it that you bring as an individual, the role of the individual is different and it matters. the other part that i think matters in decisionmaking and these documents really show it, we all argued and that is what it is supposed to be about. principles committees, shouldn't have everybody saying yes, sir, yes, sir. a really good national security adviser, nancy has been through all

but you get in the mass graffs in yugoslavia you have execution with high-powered rifle. and have something that looked very much like a human body, but not really a head. and what you would have is a little pile of bits and bones. much of the head hadn't made the way in. i don't know if it answers your question. these are very difficult questions. recovery and excavation is key. mapping every little teeny piece you can, then reconstruction. you can put the parts back together again. but it does mean recovery. that's key on the scene. >> yeah? >> i've worked extensively on the montana-indian gaves protection act and burial act. i wonder if you can discuss what means you have at your dome to investigate the sites acceptable to american natives that are in the invasive to the remains themselves. >> thank you. it's a lovely question. and i would have liked to given a whole talk on these issues. it was a very contentious, emotional law when it passed. and i think many of us who work closely with indigenous populations and different triable organizations have found we've gotte

yugoslavia was breaking up. there was trouble in the middle east. so much of what was happening either resembled what was happening at the end of the first world war or was a direct consequence of it. i think a lot of people read my book hoping to understand the world in which they were living. host: can they still buy it? guest: i am delighted to say it is still in print. host: so what part of 1919 did that book cover? how long was that time period? guest: it was six-months. like all history, you have to go back and explain what came before. i like to say what happened next. i looked at the paris peace conference, the big conference called at the end of the first world war to try to deal with the defeated nations, try to settle the world, and try to build an international system with the league of nations so you would not get a great war like this again. so what i dealt with was the six-months when all of the major world leaders were there, but i had to explain the background because so many came before them. i had to explain why there was a romani

sell war a keno book on the subject rights hellholes poster boys for intervention a kosovo and yugoslavia walls actually prove the opposite to refer consequences of us interfering in fact by its very definition any us intervention automatically means a country is no longer exercising national sovereignty although democracy washington claims to be imposing the alter of humanitarian imperialism is professor really great to speak to you why you scathing about this policy democracy place equals and so. you think we need. something every us intervention since vietnam has failed and they hated by the people on the end of them so why do they keep on interfering. with. humanitarian imperialism list some signs of the core of a regime change campaign establishment media screaming give war rich if mccain's posing for pictures with terrorists the white house is claiming it atrocities happened the moment it needs an excuse to invade all celebs showing a sudden interest in faraway economies it may be a plan for an interventionist jihad or more appropriately a new crusade by the west seek truth from fac

>> yeah, from the former yugoslavia. >> and left yugoslavia at what age? >> 14.f me when i say i've never driven a car. i never had a coca-cola until i was, like, 17. it just wasn't in a small little village where there's two cars. the first food memory i have is also from there. and it was my father. and the day before we had been into the mountain picking chestnuts. and i remember it so vividly as a little child and i woke up and i saw my father. he was roasting chestnuts. and then i start hearing all these things popping. 20 minutes later, they were in a bowl and my aunt poured milk that she had just taken from the cow and we had that for breakfast. it was so natural that we went to the mountain for the chestnuts, you grew your food yourself. these sort of experiences growing up, they really shaped the type of cook i am today. >>> so now you have a generation of young cooks like myself all over town looking for the flavor of a region. what is the flavor? what are the ingredients we have, and how do we combine them in a way that tells something of where you are

because to be in but equal yugoslavia in each are probably. the the great memory of the browse the boots we need much better before that even though this is a hoax a little known in europe we don't know. what defines a country's success looks faceless figures of economic growth. or a factual standard of living. it was a. very hard to take a. look at. a pattern that. would make their lives. fifty needs a pretty good economic ups and downs in the final at the top of month day the london deal sank i and the rest of the. take will be every week on all things. the olympic torch is on its epic journey to structure. one hundred twenty three days. through two thousand and nine hundred two cities of russia. relayed by fourteen thousand people or sixty five thousand kilometers. in a record setting trip by land air sea an outer space. a limpid torch relay. on r t r two dot com. there's a media lead also we leave the media. by the same person security for your party there's a goal. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers f

this is from the former yugoslavia, which i will talk about my work over there just a little bit todayhow you how things that we've learned in archaeological context are applicable to the more recent mass killings and disasters. okay. so whether we are again the specialists or dealing with the applications of forensic techniques, we start by building a more biological profile of the individual whether it's that wonderful complete skeleton in the grave, the fragmentary or the mostly decomposed and trying to understand who that individual is. so, we create something called the biological profile where we ask a series of nested questions moving from putting them in big categories of individuals as large as is it bone and is it human, and that may seem a bit silly, but 30% of our work is estimated to be it's not even bones. rocks come in a lot and it's not human. bear claws look like human hands and they come in always after hunting season. so, much of our work is just saying no, you don't have to worry about this. how many are there? again, with co- mingling, trying to remove evidence of

if we just let yugoslavia alone, it would've had impact not just on the six republics of yugoslavia that hungry at a time when we're dealing with the restructuring really of a whole security architecture of europe, border issues would've been affected. you would have seen the countries of the balkan region and european region affected by the disaster that would have occurred. so the intervention ended up being a very constructive policy. i think we do now look much more rigorously at alternatives. but a second one i want to mention is a case of when i was director for european analysis, a couple of e-mails came to me. one was an imagery analyst. that was before the nga was established and worked closely with us and the director of intelligence. ted holtz was his name and he was a very dedicated, on his own initiative, working with director of intelligence analyst, decided to go through all the archival imagery of bosnia, and the goal was to see what that imagery would tell us about the accountability for ethnic cleansing. and when he finished, or they finished, the work, it showed that i

yugoslavia was breaking up. trouble in the middle east. so much of what was happening resembled what was happening in the first world war or a direct consequence of it. i think a lot of people read my book hoping to understand the world in which i'm living. >> can they still buy it. >> they can. you can listen to it too. >> how long did 1919 cover? >> it was essentially six months, but like all history, you have to explain. and i think i would like to anyway say what happened next. it's the paris peace conference at the so-called war to try to deal with the defeated nations. try to settle the world, a turbulent world, and try to build an international system with a league of nations so you wouldn't get a great war like this again. what i dealt with was the six months when all of the major world leaders were there. but i had to explain the background. i had to explain why there was an bulgaria and the balkan revolution. i had to say how relevant it was. >> how relevant is 1919 and the decisions made in versailles. >> it's very relevant. int

because to be in but equal yugoslavia each should probably. be a blue greets memory of the powers that be. we need much better before that even though this is a hoax a little known in europe we don't know. what defines a country's success. faceless figures of economic growth. or a factual standard of living. when i don't have anything to do i often put on street performances i do it alone or call the guys and we perform together with. me and sometimes they give money but it's not about. the no one thing i have told him something and anything happens to him his family or he has financial difficulties here he can go on the street with his hands on a living with his act and they'll be no shame in. yes i believe everything you do comes back to you if you hurt someone or did something bad it will come back. i caused a lot of trouble i broke into apartments and stole things from people. so i was once going home from school when a guy approached me and ordered me to give him my phone when i refused and he hit me in the face hit him back and we starte

this is from former yugoslavia, which i talk about my work over there, i talked about it a little bit today. showing you how things that we have learned in the archaeological context are applicable to more recent mass killings and disasters. so okay. whether we are specialists order dealing with the application of forensic techniques, we start by building a biological profile of the individual, where there is a wonderful complete skeleton with the fragmentary or mostly decomposed and trying to understand that individual is. so we create something where we create a biological profile, where be talk about big categories of individuals, is it bone, is a human. and that may seem a bit silly, but 30% of our work is estimated to be -- it's not even bone, because rocks come in a lot and bear claws look like human hands, they come and always after hunting season. so much of our work is to say, no, you do not have to worry about this. so how many are there? again, with comingling and trying to remove evidence of a body or multiple bodies, sorting out how many folks are in their, it is somethin

in the last century the town first belong to italy then yugoslavia and some people here have bad memories of the communist era now the worries are a big difference in the senate is afraid home could lose its unique character. to be in the process of attracting more people more money to build structures that are mature enough to. in harmony in brief thursday situation he says in the first place a truck and people. so the new destroyed the favourites there is this true and living room. the tourists would no longer find the things that have always attracted them to come. in a referendum in twenty twelve two thirds of coalition voters said yes to joining the european union for the sudden loss of. back then by voted to join too because i thought it would be best for croatia. but now when i see prices and how things are developing. i've grown a bit skeptical that is what. once again people here have to get use to new structures and implement laws divine step in faraway places this time in brussels the world's smallest town has always been pragmatic perhaps that's the legacy of the giants' new l

that ukraine is looking at a yugoslav scenario what exact parallel would you with your question in yugoslavia do you think civil war is possible. gerson as you.

believes that by taking sides the west risks are turning the ukrainian standoff into that of another yugoslavia. lives of this is something you're not using you just. want to. show them what the civil war did for years were we were actually. i'm seeing a repeat of this unfortunately. i don't see the west having learned. policy. that's just not so you seem to be sort of peaceful. or not sure. there's a hole. and we will continue to bring you live updates from the ukrainian capital throughout the day of course the latest developments also the most dramatic footage show is available on our web site a click away at the top. is good to have you with us today on the program russia's foreign minister is in iran his first official visit since a diplomatic breakthrough on tyrone's nuclear program last month through negotiations with six world powers iran agreed to reduce its enrichment of uranium and in return for an easing of international sanctions under the six month interim deal iran stopped one of its heavy water reactors which could potentially become a source of plutonium the material needed for

taking sides in ukraine now and what happened ahead of the civil war which led to the breakup of yugoslavia. but the. lives of this this is something you're not using you know. he wants to silence you took son to slove in. the civil war the four years' work you were actually done and i think i'm seeing a repeat of this unfortunately. i don't see the west have a. policy. that's just not so easy to see it's really sort of peaceful. or not sure. there's a hole. and we will continue of course bringing you live updates from the ukrainian capital throughout the day also all the latest developments on the most dramatic footage available for you just a few clicks away dot com. a pleasure to have you with us here on the program today russia's foreign minister is in iran his first official visit there since a diplomatic breakthrough on iran's nuclear program that was just last month a sanctions are being eased in return for a reduction in the enrichment of uranium over the next six months in a deal that moscow has certainly been pushing more on this one are joined by more if an option in the iranian

because today but equally yugoslavia should probably. be a great movie of the powers that be. we need much better before that even though this is going to go to. deliberate george is on an epic journey to such. one hundred twenty three days. through two thousand nine hundred ton two cities of russia. relayed by fourteen thousand people or sixty five thousand coming. in a record setting trip by land air sea and others face. a limp a torch relay. on r t r two dot com. who has nuclear weapons in the middle east and this threatening to use them coming up. then you mean you're revealing what he really thinks about america. the world's top war crimes prosecutor tells us why he helped convict israel for genocide. and we're going to be a becomes a battlefield as lobbies try to rewrite history. colin powell will crimes commission on the vendor twenty six found israel guilty of genocide against the palestinians tribunal stays consistent evidence it heard from eyewitnesses concluded since nine hundred forty eight there have been repeated mass killings through and naval strikes forced exp

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because to be in but equal yugoslavia in each should probably. be the memory of the powers that be. believed much better before that even though this is a hoax in europe. no million. a million people name is ali baba. a mobile forty. seven i've got no other family no how. i'm still looking for my cold a good life with. so much to place in the world. literally have no place to live. chewing on the bread that you bought with the last money you were able to bag. get out of here. there are only two possible outcomes to the situation you know you go to miami and it's all about fancy tricks the other option you die in the ring. you know. pleasure to have you with us here on. live from moscow what i am this is all take this morning you cry you clarification from the e.u. for european commission says the trade deal talks with the country are on hold all the. government protests in the capital being cheered on by western politicians. also this week reported in syria with islamist rebel forces said to have killed dozens of civilians in the latest in a series of atrocities. breaking free of th

ukraine is looking at a yugoslav scenario what exact parallel switch you drove with your question in yugoslavia do you think civil war is possible there are other things going because the question of ukraine is war. gross and about who will give more because the feeling that those people who. have been calling. are much more. agreeable to to accept some. good bid to this artificial name of what is because today nato is in fact spreading or what they used to saying we were one of the dungannon austin and now this is very visible that in fact european formally doesn't mean nato but in fact it's very much connected why i'm saying it is i have example in which for the strategic reason bulgaria and romania became europe before even serbia and croatia. what is your of for me europe is an old system that gave us a renaissance and it gave us the biggest achievements. in the judea christian civilization and i am behind this but each time it comes every in a while in the century to the crisis then there is a formal way to go for the goods on the other side my problem a little bit of them in venice of und

surgery popovich is an internationally renowned activist who helped overthrow yugoslavia and president slobodan milosevic but earlier this week two reporters for occupy dot com uncovered up hope of it was actually recruited by strap for global intelligence company that calls itself the private cia karl gibson one of the reporters who broke this story joined me earlier to discuss popovich has ties to strap for i first asked him how he discovered the shocking revelation that. yeah i had first met searches in new york city and it looks when he left and she and i were actually ever months with one of the yes men right after my group us teamed up with the yes men to play a prank on general electric and he introduced me to surgery as this revolutionary activist you would love to overthrow the regime in serbia in two thousand and if you you know i google search after i met him. i was really impressed but all the work that he had done both in serbia and through his organization and it wasn't until i was clued into. is work with stratfor by the group revolution desh news dot com and they had lo

is an internationally renowned activist who helped overthrow yugoslavia and president slobodan milosevic but earlier this week two reporters for occupy dot com uncovered up hope of it was actually recruited by strap for global intelligence company that calls itself the private cia gibson one of the reporters who broke this story joined me earlier to discuss popovich as ties to strap for i first asked him how he discovered the shocking revelation that. yeah i had first met searches in new york city and it looks where you live and she and i were actually at lunch with one of the. right after my group u.s. team. with the yes man to play a prank on general electric and he introduced me to surgery as this revolutionary activist who had ultimate through the loss of the regime in serbia in two thousand and if you you know i google search after i met him and i was really impressed about all the work that he had done both in serbia and through his organization and it wasn't until i was clued into. his work with stratfor by the group revolution desh news dot com and they had looked into the wiki l

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because today in the breakaway yugoslavia in each republic. be a great memory of the past and they all say we need much better before that even though this is how come you'll know in europe you don't know. what defines a country's success. faceless figures of economic growth. or a factual standard of living from. being . an. welcome back to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to mind you we're discussing the surveillance state. ok you can i go back to you in washington and looking at all of the funding the budgeting that goes to all of these spy agencies here are we getting good value for our money here because i i just don't see the great plots that are being hatched you know being found out in capturing people and all these trials and eat you think you get a little bit of more result from it i mean again it gets down to trust and when we're told well we we we made sure that three different three different attacks didn't happen but we can't tell you about it because it's a secret i mean i i'm not you know i mean look down

because they didn't but equal yugoslavia in each should probably. be abu ghraib it's memory of the past and they. believe much better before that even though this is how come you'll know in europe we don't know. why is the price of gold so high. demand global demand do you think oldest money. know the value of the only place we have to live of the water that we need to survive it's not compared to i mean gold we're not going to eat gold we're not going to bait with gold. we're not going to drink what clearly what a mile is and it's in a desperate economic situation absolutely right what we're wrong to do is say therefore any kind of economic development from the outside is going to be a benefit their only purpose is to extract as much money as possible to feed into the global. with we're part of a geo political economic system that's extremely exploited or. first of all it's a question whether mining should even be carried out altogether can it be done in a way which doesn't destroy people's lives resources environment and so on well you know those