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union as we know it today was practically built on the blood and the disintegration of yugoslavia. they had to practically agree to german terms germany wanted to recognize the session of states as a result everyone else went along so this is again not anything new for the west they're playing real politics and it has nothing to do very little to do with democracy it has much to do with pragmatic geo political interests and people are just being used as pawns well mr private eubank in ukraine and the issue of geo political interests can you go a bit deeper into that for us some people are saying that they that you brussels wants a nato foothold right on the front doorstep of russia what's your what's your take on that. well absolutely i mean now we have the nato general secretary. making more and more comments in this regard again favoring the protesters of course the ukraine is is a geo political prize par excellence if you are moving east toward russia and obviously nato has been moving east since the end of the cold war more than twenty years ago the berlin wall since its fall a

out of western powers and i mentioned iraq and afghanistan libya you could throw in there as well yugoslavia before that you know a lot of people will say that it's very similar to nine hundred.

london metropolitan university and author of the new book bombs for peace nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia in washington we have brian becker he is the national coordinator for the answer coalition and in london we cross to david stephenson he is an author of several books about the first world war as well as a professor of international history at the london school of economics or a gentleman cross-talk rules and if it means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it george if i go to you first in new york a century ago one of the worst catastrophes in history occurred it was the beginning of the first world war and looking at parallels to the present we had a very unstable international system then how stable is the system today. well it was not so much. stable system back then i mean it's more that there were foolish policy makers. and foolish policy makers around today i think what happened in one nine hundred fourteen was a series of miscalculations due to the belief on the part of policymakers that there's an easy way to win a war and there's an easy way to get wha

out of western powers and i mentioned iraq and afghanistan libya you could throw in there as well yugoslavia before that you know a lot of people will say that it's very similar to nine hundred fourteen because of alliances how stable our alliances particularly western alliances well i would say there's a fundamental difference between now and nine hundred fourteen nine hundred fourteen was the and the war and the outbreak of conflict on a on a global scale something that hadn't really been seen before was the consequence of the centuries.

>> yeah, from the former yugoslavia. >> and left yugoslavia at what age? >> 14.me when i say i've never driven a car. i never had a coca-cola until i was, like, 17. it just wasn't in a small little village where there's two cars. the first food memory i have is also from there. and it was my father. and the day before we had been into the mountain picking chestnuts. and i remember it so vividly as a little child and i woke up and i saw my father. he was roasting chestnuts. and then i start hearing all these things popping. 20 minutes later, they were in a bowl and my aunt poured milk that she had just taken from the cow and we had that for breakfast. it was so natural that we went to the mountain for the chestnuts, you grew your food yourself. these sort of experiences growing up, they really shaped the type of cook i am today. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah. everybody knows that. did you know there is an oldest trick in the book? what? trick number one. look-est over there. ha ha. made-est thou look. so end-eth the

and then by the 15th century, in fact, especially in russia and yugoslavia, these sanctuary barriers reached five rows. that one i'm standing in front of presently has two rows. the lowest row is called a local row. it's low and it's rather assessable for those who wish to venerate these icons. what you see here are representations of isolated saints which are standing and, in fact, in this row, there is a certain amount of flexibility in your choice of the participants, in the choice of your subject matter. in the center, the two center-most images which flank the sanctuary represent on the right hand christ in the blue robe, and across the way on the left is the virgin with the christ child, but that is traditional. that's an established representation-- established choice of placement. but when coupled with the figure to the left-- on christ's left or to my right if i face the screen, is saint john the baptist. when you take the three figures with christ placed in the center, you have a very important iconography called the deesis. that's a greek word. but in fact, the iconography

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when they started, bosnia was part of socialist yugoslavia. then came the civil war and after 1995, the time of reconstruction. now the company is bankrupt. >> the politicians destroyed it -- not the workers or the people, the politicians. our oligarchs, these eves -- thieves. >> now in the 50's, the couple live off the pension her father receives. the bosnians have begun to protest against the poverty. >> come on, let's go. >> every day at 1:00, protesters gather in front of the government building. even if it's just a burned-out shell. the protests have turned violent. in early february, stone-throwing protesters stormed local government headquarters. older workers joined forces with the younger generation. that's the first time that's happened in almost 20 years since the civil war ended in bosnia. in this multicultural state, politicians like to emphasize the ethnic differences between bosniaks, croats, and serbs. now people have had enough of these politicians. the peace agreement of 1995 divided the country into two political entities. o

when they started bosnia was part of socialist yugoslavia. then came the civil war and after nineteen ninety five the time if reconstruction. now the company's bankers politicians destroyed it the workers of the people of politicians now oligarchs east peace. now in their sixties the couple is off the pension and easy to see the two year old father receives one hundred and fifty euros a month. but the bosnian some begun to protest against the property let's go he gets really upset. you know. everyday at one o'clock. protesters gather in front of the two strike count on government buildings. even if it's just a burnt out shell the protests turned violent in early february stone throwing protesters stormed the local government headquarters. older workers joined forces with the younger generation that's the first time that's happened in the almost twenty years since the civil war and in bosnia. in this multicultural state politicians like to emphasize the ethnic differences between bosnian still a concern. now that people have had enough of thes

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out of western powers and i mentioned iraq and afghanistan libya you could throw in there as well yugoslavia before that you know a lot of people will say that it's very similar to nine hundred fourteen because of alliances and how stable our alliances particularly western alliances well i would say there's a fundamental difference between now and nine hundred fourteen nine hundred fourteen was the and the war and the outbreak of conflict on a on a global scale something that hadn't really been seen before was the consequence of the centuries and then decades of intense colonization that culminated so so that the entire world was divided between a few powers in the colonies some in colonies and spheres of influence and then there was a war about how to read divide the world and read divide the colonies and spheres of influence in the markets today after the collapse especially of the soviet union but more importantly after the the end of world war two we've seen the world shift instead of the various major capitals powers vying with each other they've been pulled together as a united front u

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london metropolitan university and author of the new book bombs for peace nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia in washington we have brian becker he is the national coordinator for the answer coalition and in london we crossed to david stephenson he is an author of several books about the first world war as well as a professor of international history at the london school of economics are gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you.

west has supported extremists yugoslavia when the country was broken up in the early nineteen nineties its supporting extremists elsewhere. libya and syria it's a global phenomenon and it's nothing new. images shows the pragmatic and your political stance of the west has absolutely no moral qualms. don't take anyone to achieve that means that something this the stabilizing the total war horrible what is the reaction save from entering of what you want to stifle but the question mr foreign affairs which can only five thousand jobs in ireland in matters that concern you think they'll have a pretty sad that i can save vital that the opposition the government stops. i'm auditioning for three conditions and especially for the opposition to suit. i can calm down and they are out there militant right wing protesting. i and part of protest and get to sit down to the table with the government in order to solve the situation it seems he got to meet the spiraling out of control and it was different from several other officials and european european leaders. a little treat from katherine jackson v

country of forty six million people a beautiful country with a rich history that's what happened to yugoslavia under pressure from nato forces it was a country that was a multinational multi-ethnic regionally divided. republic it was broken up could this happen to the ukraine yes the same thing happened to the former soviet union under those circumstances the worst case scenario could be so much suffering not just for now and not just for months or years but for generations for the people of ukraine best case the e.u. and the united states should get out of the ukraine and let the ukrainian people become the masters of their own destiny that's the best case now that is a really slippery slope to civil war but i want to know from you i mean we're seeing people die on a daily basis we're seeing these clashes continue for weeks and months what does where is that line when it comes to a revolution when that starts happening or when we start calling this a civil war when is that line well we're getting close to the line i don't think it's a revolution i think it's kind of a counter revolution we've

of forty six million people a beautiful country with a rich history type that's what happened in yugoslavia under pressure from nato forces it was a country that was a multi national multi ethnic han regionally divided multi national republican was broken up. could this happen in ukraine yes the same thing happen to the former soviet union under those circumstances the worse case scenario could be so much suffering not just for now inactive for months or years but for generations for the people of ukraine this case the eu and united states should get out of ukraine and let the ukrainian people become the masters of their own destiny. that's the best cakes now the sun really slippery slope to civil war but i want to tell you i mean we're seeing people die on a daily basis for saying these clashes continue for weeks and months. what does. where is the line when it comes to a revolution one that starts happening or will we start calling this a civil war when that money. well we're getting close to the line i don't think it's a revolution and it's kind of a counter revolution we've seen the err

we had a legitimate government in yugoslavia we had people attacking the legitimate government we demand forces and the west then took sides with forces attacking the legitimate armed forces of the country i think the same thing is happening now i don't think in the west anyone would tolerate this sort of behavior meaning that if you had armed and uniformed people of unknown origin attacking police forces in london or brussels people would expect response in a very form response if you don't respond you have no power anymore the country falls apart. and of course the authorities have been accused of not responding harshly enough at the very beginning of these protests back in november absolutely and now we know if the authorities now expanded the way any authorities were washington and brussels in london the west and anyone western governments would say this is too forceful response we call for peace etc it's the same methodology used over and over again i think president really needs to show that he's in charge but how does he do that because he has offered concessions already to the pr

protesters we're seeing extreme violence and death and now the west has supported extremists in yugoslavia when the country was broken up in the early one nine hundred ninety s. they've supported extremist elsewhere in libya in syria it's a global phenomenon and it's nothing new and it just shows. pragmatic geo political stance of the worst absolutely no moral qualms it don't take anyone to achieve their means but it's something to destabilize in the world what is the international reaction so far in the arena of from what you've monitored so far. russian ministry of foreign affairs which generally doesn't jump in in matters that concern you krane they all have already said that it's vital that the opposition the government stop. issuing forth preconditions and especially for the opposition . to calm down their. their militant rightwing protesting. parts of the protest and to sit down to the table with the government in order to solve the situation that seems to be rapidly spiraling out of control and then of course we've heard from several other officials. european european leaders heard

we can hardly compare the position of croatia or yugoslavia, iran, iraq, israel. different neighbourhood. the types of center and the deppsity of the interests in the region are different. those are elements taken into account by people who died on intervening or not. >> is the bottom line that we do not have strong enough leadership. >> you have a leader re-elected to help speed up getting us out of afghanistan or iraq. in the '90s, the public had not been taken flow the turmoil. the time had not come to involved the united states in a middle east conflict. >> if it means something as simply as air strikes, we are not talking about boots on the ground, air strikes could make a big difference. why reluctance to do that? >> that could be a first step. he's aware of how easy it is to slide into other actions. that didn't do it, let's try a protected zone, requiring ground forces - not ours, but somebodies has to go in. the future he's thought about decided he didn't want to get into it. there's talk of re-evaluation or the various options. assad felt he was taken of

people i think all across the world remember very clearly what happens to yugoslavia in the 1990s and nobody really want to see that happen here. russia aren't doing anything to get directly involved at least not in an obvious sense. but if there is a deterioration of the situation on the ground, and if russian speakers in the east and the south of the country start becoming on the receiving end of ethnic or sectarian violence, and start calling for russian help, then it is going to be very difficult for russia to stay out of it completely. >> all right, yoir, than rory t, rory challenge in russia for us and hoda hamid in the ukrainian capital. thank you. >>> traditionally, yanukovych's power base says he accepts the authorities. >> i recognize ukraine's parliament as the only legitimate body now. we need to face the truth. a lot of mistakes including tragic mistakes have been made. and the most horrible thing is they led to people's death. for this, the president will undoubtedly be taken into account. >> a saying in eastern ukraine, antiyeunantiyanukovych protesto. >> still standing

under the former yugoslavia system, they used to own 30%, now they say they are at the mercy of speculators>> tim friend, al jazeera, bosnia. >> sport is still to come. full details for you in a couple of minutes. >> right now it is about 11:30 in the evening. the u.s. is in fourth place with seven medals but 88 countries are there competing. now obviously, not everyone speaks the same and that is a smile. ray has more now on how russia wants everybody to walk away, smiling. >> sochi has something that supposedly doesn't come naturally to russians, she is smiling. and she is being helpful again, supposedly, an alien concept here. >> we have a special -- with the rug food. >> one of hundreds of volunteers helping olympic visitors arriving at the airport. it makes he proud that russians aren't the grim faced grouches that may be expecting. >> now we can tell that people to open russian sha, to see how people in russia are kind. are very friendly, and it's very good chance for us. >> >> generous hospitality can be heard from anyone here. but russian themselves admit this tends to only come wit

, then i do think you would have a true war scenario in europe, something we haven't seen since yugoslavia. >> in talking about the association with europe that was rejected, you also wrote it was hard to foresee a velvet conclusion to the protests where the protesters would be victors and we would see rea newed ties with the european union. >> i think evening the best-case scenario is going to be messy. that's what we saw after the orange revolution in 2005 in ukraine. ukraine is a very young democracy and it's a country that has very weak institutions of democratic governnance. the ukrainian people want it, but democracy ask more than a people willing to go out and fight for that in the streets, important though that is. it's lots of complicated and difficult-to-build civic institutions. ukraine doesn't have that. even if the democrats were to win, i think you would see them having a hard time governing. >> doesn't mean, though, that that is not the desirable outcome. i think that is absolutely the best possible outcome. >> a very dark day. >> it won't be smooth. >> it's certainly a dark

then there was the intervention in the former yugoslavia. >> i think that's the closest case you can get to post cold war intervention that is did seem to produce unbalanced positive political outcome, albeit there, the occupation of kosovo for example by u.s. and allied forces ended up taking a much longer time. >> so then and let me emphasize, my argument is not that there are never cases where military power has utility. there are cases. i think that the problem with policy makers in the united states over the past couple of decades is that they have tended to think that all problems can have a political solution. >> excuse me. >> a military solution. >> we went into libya and helped overthrow gaddafi. that's a disaster, still a mess there. in yemen gone in in a limited day without intervention. the question that comes to mind is is the problem intervening in countries where there are very substantial parts of the population, mostly muslim country that is really just hate the united states. >> i don't think i'd phrase it that way. i think i'd phrase it that there is a problem with

yugoslavia, seen in intoountry really slipping a stage of the civil war and falling apart will stop itnot completely inconceivable. >> let me ask you about the u.s. response. the white house has warned him to de-escalate the situation. clearly he has gone the other direction. what happens if we do see this country start to disintegrate and form two or three states? it, thererank about is very little that can be done to influence the situation. the president can condemn the violence and of course he's going to do that. leadhat you is taking the in dealing with this. eu trade with ukraine is more than 16 times longer with u.s. trade -- then u.s. trade is. whatever leverage the west has resides with the eu in this case. >> this was brought on by the russians holding back their milk supply or cutting off natural gas supply. we have seen that spread through to become a real problem for the west -- for the rest of europe. >> you wonder how much of this is becoming a power play for president putin in russia. that is a big heart of all of this. >> i understand he has not really responded much.

. >> is this yugoslavia? could this generate a split?ation feels it has a greater affinity to moscow. the west has a greater affinity to brussels. ati don't think so, ukraine the same time since the fall of the soviet union has stayed fairly stable. we have never seen violence like this despite that we have seen it elsewhere. >> now they have to pick sides. is do theyquestion have to? the way the narrative is framed, you go east or west. that is theue that choice that has to be made. europeans are not asking ukraine to turn away from russia and to not engage. they are not asking for trade to stop between russia and ukraine. neither are the russians. is there overlap? yes, absolutely. the case, if not the pivotal point has not been reached, why are we seeing what we are seeing on the strains? are framing itle is very much you go one way or the other way. the reality -- policymaking is far more messy. it is not black and white, russia or europe. they could be a compromise between the two. it is incredibly important that they get financial

it would look like yugoslavia again.dy six debt over the last couple of days is nothing when it comes to blows along ethnic lines when it did 20 years ago in another part of europe. >> we have been talking about whether hundreds could do. i want to bring in my morning must-read from the "wall street journal," he talks about there are no two putins. can we buy pulling out of sochi or by boycotting the sochi sunday ensureei that the winter limits will not go down as the games that were the defeat of europe? >> it is not going to happen. even if they did pull out of the olympic silver that come it would be symbolic of course, but this -- putin has had a hand in this and putin is not a democrat. it is a more complicated situation than just vladimir putin suppressing -- >> this is critical. we are honored to have with us davidlkenrath and kirkpatrick, the "facebook effect," gone is your world of social media immediacy to kiev is remarkable. >> what can the u.s. do to help them decide for themselves? we have already done an en

look at sarajevo in yugoslavia when they had the winter olympics and look at that town now. we will see how rio de janeiro who has the next summer olympics will do. we know that country is going to struggle to financially support all the buildings that go along, the infrastructure, with olympics like that. peter, remember, the summer olympics are 15,000 athletes, 15,000 volunteers. you have to provide an olympic village that the athletes can move in the day of the olympics. it is just an amazing undertaking. so i agree. one of the aspects of olympics his finances. in --iewer tweets the next call for eric zillmer comes from madonna in missouri. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to comment on your previous guest. she stated that she was not at all having interest in the government -- let me start over. she stated that she wanted the government to back olympians athletes because they were representative of the u.s. country. which takes offense -- which makes sense to me. but at the same breath she did not want olympians to being used as commodity for the government

how come it is ok for yugoslavia -- [indiscernible] that.xplain to me thank you. >> thank you for your questions. i would not compare these situations. you know the united states has never supported the division of cyprus. you referred to cyprus. has been divided for more than 40 years now. we have not supported that. we support peace talks that would lead to the unification. states has clearly supported the independence of the country of macedonia and have diplomatic relations with that country and that is the proper thing for us to do. the situation in ukraine is quite different. we recognize the ukraine on december 20 5, 19 91, that was the day the soviet union split up into 15 parts. we have been a good friend of the ukraine since then. we obviously need to be respectful of the internal affairs of the people of the ukraine, but we can certainly speak up and argue for democracy endthe rule of law and an to the nefarious russian influence that has taken place in the country. there has been a consistency between president george h.w. bush, president clinton, and president george w. bu

also continued her public service as a judge on the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia and a member of the president's commission on intelligence capabilities of the united states regarding weapons of mass destruction. she served in president carter's administration as the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs in the department of justice. she also previously worked as an attorney at the mental health law project, the center for law and social policy, the neighborhood legal services program, the office of criminal justice at the department of justice and co-director of the ford foundation, drug abuse research project. judge wald clerked for judge jerome frank of the united states court of appeals for the second circuit. she received her b.a. from connecticut college for women and her j.d. from yale law school. i might just say she's been inducted in the connecticut women's hall of fame. we welcome all of you. we thank you for being here. i understand you have a brief introductory statement that will be submitted by the chairman and please proceed. thank you

also continued her public service as a judge on the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia and a member of the president's commission on intelligence capabilities of the united states regarding weapons of mass destruction. she served in president carter's administration as the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs in the department of justice. she also previously worked as an attorney at the mental health law project, the center for law and social policy, the neighborhood legal services program, the office of criminal justice at the department of justice and co-director of the ford foundation, drug abuse research project. judge wald clerked for judge jerome frank of the united states court of appeals for the second circuit. she received her b.a. from connecticut college for women and her j.d. from yale law school. i might just say she's been inducted in the connecticut women's hall of fame. we welcome all of you. we thank you for being here. i understand you have a brief introductory statement that will be submitted by the chairman and please proceed. thank you

continued her public service as the judge on the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia and member of the presidents commission on intelligence capability of the united states regarding weapons of mass distraction. she served in president carter's the fivcarter'sadministration fe legislative affairs in the department of justice. she also previously worked as an attorney at the mental project for the social policy in the neighborhood legal services program. the office of criminal justice at the department of justice and the codirector of the fourth foundation drug abuse research project. the judge wald judged for jerome and the court of appeals for the second circuit and received her ba from the connecticut college and from yale law school and i might just say she has been inducted into the connecticut women hall of fame. we welcome all of you and thank you for being here. i understand you have a brief introductory statement that will be sent by the chairman. please proceed. >> on behalf of my fellow members, thank you mr. chairman, ranking member grassley and committee m