yukiko plant. you keep your doctor if your employer is providing you good health insurance, terrific. we're not going to mess with it. but if you are a small businessperson, if the insurance that's being offered is something you can't afford, if you want to shop for a better price, then you can go to this exchange, this marketplace and you can, look, okay. this is how much this plan costs. this is how much that plan cost of this is is what the coverage is. this is what gets my family. as one of those options for us to say here is a public option that is not profit driven, that can keep down administrative costs, and that provide you good, quality care for a reasonable price as one of the options or you choose, i think that makes sense. >> does that drive private insurers out of business? >> why would drive private insurers out of business? if private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality health care, if they tell us that they are offering a good deal, then why is it that the g