thank you, yuliya hryshina, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the subcommittee on higher education of the verkhovna rada's committee on issues. of education , science and innovation was on the air of espresso, we had time to discuss a lot with ms. yulia , what is really important, and we hope that all the viewers who are interested in this topic also found it useful to hear the people's deputy, who is actually in the relevant committee, some important things we heard from ms. yulia, we understand that the situation with the optimization of higher educational institutions will indeed be difficult, perhaps unfair in relation to certain educational institutions, but we understand that the state is determined to ensure that this process takes place after all. we will now go on a short break, and after that we will add volodymyr tsibulka, a political scientist, to our broadcast, and we will have many topics to discuss with him, because in fact there are also many events, both today and over the weekend, so stay with us , stay with espresso, we'll be back in a few minutes and join volody