guests are involved in our conversation taras zagorodnyi, an international political scientist and yuliya klymenko, a people's deputy of ukraine good day glory to ukraine we welcome you on the air espresso good day heroes glory to the heroes let's start our conversation with all these different plans of peacekeepers for ukraine peacekeepers let's say well, we already had a chinese representative, so to speak, as if the holy see is preparing to send its special representative, one to ukraine, the other to muscovy, and here is the last one, so to speak the delicious cherry on this diplomatic cake was also the south african initiative, we understand that all those countries and their representatives, well, except for the holy see, they are included in a certain arbiter of interests and cooperation with moscow, saudi arabia, which today literally painted on this such a peace-making front taras, well, this means one thing that the russian federation is very afraid of a counteroffensive against the ukrainian army, understands that a lot can change and there will be no conversation with putin at all, the

we have two guests in our program: taras zahorodnyi, an international political scientist, and yuliya klymenkoof ukraine. good day, glory to ukraine. we welcome you to espresso. good day, glory to the heroes. let's start our conversation with all these different plans of peacekeepers for ukraine, peacekeepers, let's say