this is a really interesting area because it is a latino majority, a county here in yuma county.nt inroads with that voting populationment and when you talk about immigration here, you'll find that people are perhaps a little bit more concerned when they heard about things like a mass deportation from day one, because they say that yes at certain points during the biden presidency, they did feel that the number of people coming over the border, they say, was too high. but they say nevertheless, many people coming over here legally - 30,000 people coming over here legally — 30,000 people coming over from mexico here every day to be part of that skilled labour force — particularly in agricultural communities like this, they say, is invaluable for the local economy. and those economic concerns that we heard voiced in the election really coming to the forefront when we spoke to voters once again. here's what they told me. �* , ., , me. i'm feeling very hopeful. i'm hepeful— me. i'm feeling very hopeful. i'm hopeful that _ me. i'm feeling very hopeful. i'm hopeful that things - me. i'

yuma and yuma county where we are now is a latino majority county. time, they voted overwhelmingly for donald trump. we are exactly at the border taking a look at what has become an image so well-known around the world. the border wall built by donald trump. some portions of it have been continued by president biden. if you look in this direction, we have seen miles of it. get two points like this one, it is -- simply stops. and here, this expands -- this expase's mexico. at some point during the biden administration, -- levels of illegal crossings. that promise from donald trump to carry out mass deportations from day one is something he's insistent on. he has not put a price tag on it because of what he believes to be the need, despite the fact we have seen the number of people coming over the border illegally, coming down since president biden enacted an executive order. i was speaking to the president and ceo of the center for regional border health. i asked if she thought she used -- they can carry out those mass deportations. >> i don't think t

our news correspondent helena humphrey is in yuma, arizona.port. welcome to the ache a bar restaurant and pool house in arizona a swing state which we know when for donald trump in the election, but here in yuma county where we are right now, overwhelmingly voters chose donald trump in this election. when you speak people here about how they about migration, usually the word is excitement or people saying that they hope for example, it is better than the past four years. so few people being a little bit more apprehensive, but this is an interesting area because it is a latino majority county here in yuma county nevertheless, donald trump made significant inroads with that voting population. when you talk about immigration your you will find people think that perhaps they are a little bit more concern when they hear things about a mass deportation from day one because they say that, yes at certain points during the biden presidency, they did feel the number of people coming over the border, they say, was too high. but they say nevertheless, man

they are coming out to drive through the city of yuma for that just to tell you a little bit about yumawhich is a swing state which went for donald trump. here overwhelmingly they voted for donald trump. so groups of people have been congregating today and the car park. this will be there for victory parade in this election cycle. they say they want to come out, they want to proudly show the community that they are excited about another donald trump presidency. i should say, not everybody here feels like that. some people have been expressing anxiety about what is ahead. particularly in a latino majority community. donald trump as we know has said he will be carrying out mass deportations from day one. some people a little bit worried about people who are here illegally getting caught up here illegally getting caught up in that. what people hear up and telling me is that when they started these caravans, these victory caravans and campaign caravans they didn't always get a positive reception. they say that has changed in the past years and months. i spoke to one of the organizers about

but this is a really interesting area because it is a latino majority population here in yuma county.bout people coming over from mexico with seasonal work visas, for example, to work on the agricultural land getting caught up in these promised mass deportations, which donald trump says that he will carry out from day one. other people saying that for them, the economy really was a big issue and another range of issues. also coming up with some of the voters i was speaking to here. take a listen to what they told me. one time, you know, he's talking bad about servicemen, people in the military, and, you know, i got injured in vietnam and i don't like people talking bad about any veteran of the service, whatever branch of the service they were in. what matters to you? probably medical freedom is one of those things — i no mandatory vaccinations and stuff like that. - i know he was into . that, so that's good. so someone like rfkjr as health secretary, what do you think about that? absolutely wonderful. yeah, he's real. my brother is a sergeant, he's deployed right now, and obviously th

we saw an enormous decrease on migrants crossing the border, particularly here in yuma.e've been assisting the border patrol in 2023, we saw in december over 11,000 people a month, and today we saw in december 24, only 500 people a month. so we can see the impact that the biden administration executive order had in the border. donald trump has said, for example, that there's no price tag that he will put right now on border security or this mass deportation when he carries it out, he says on day one. but ijust wonder, from your experience being here, are the resources there to carry out something of such scale? it's an enormous task if he wants to do that. i don't think that they have the resources the government to do that. 0ur immigration institutions, our border patrol, don't have the personnel to do to that scale of magnitude that he thinks that he might be able to do at this point. so it would take probably an enormous amount of money and an enormous amount of people being recruited to become law enforcement in ice, immigration and also in the border patrol. so that

apparently, not look at any of the numbers, such as in yuma, in yuma the entire last year the numbers were about 8600, i believe it was. that was the total encounters. when it was not unusual under the biden administration to have 8600 encounters in a weekend. ludicrous argument. specious. the numbers came down. why did they come down? because you didn't count people who were applying under cbp-1 app. you didn't count people who were -- if you're not counting everybody, well, of course the numbers come down. and that's where we sit here today. the law is this. an asylum requester is required to remain in custody until that requester is adjudicated. is that not true? >> absolutely. that's the way the law is written. mr. biggs: no administration has been successful at doing that because there's a massive number of asylum requests. but under this administration, how many asylum requesters have been released into the country? >> too many, sir. they're just released into the country and not put into detention as they should be. mr. biggs: if they were actually detained, the way the law req

here, they were telling us that in 2023, they were processing some 11,000 migrants coming through yumacutive actions by president biden, it's 500 per month, and they've also expressed concerns that when they hear things such as "mass deportations", theyjust don't know whether they have, they say, enough of the border force officials working here to actually be able to enact those plans. and a reminder, we'll have full coverage of donald trump's inauguration here on bbc news with a special programme from washington starting on monday at 12 gmt. that's 7am us eastern. donald trump has repeatedly claimed he will end the war in ukraine within a day after taking office. he envoy in ukraine has revised that to 100 days and we don't know how that will be achieved. most controls 80% of ukraine and is continuing to take territory. —— moscow controls. you can see that in this map. our senior international correspondent reports on the mood in ukraine and head of the trumpet�*s return to the white house. waging war on ukraine's eastern front. a drone unit assembles improvised bombs by hand, some p

up, red lights flashing sirens, screaming, something that was at the entrance of the north pole and yuma fire station. that was actually the floor of where we have a report fire in the hill trap. you drive? yes, just north of the sheriff's substation on the highway. it's traveling fast. so we never thank you very well. and that's got to be part of our blazer above the sheriff's station that is eight miles east of here that are completely fire. it's got to be all out available piece of equipment and both the city and i'll take the civilian the best engines out there myself. a new fire eight miles away, sweeping down the steep cliffside toward homes thickly clustered above the highway on the high with a magnificent pacific view, a view now obscured by brown smoke choking out the setting, bringing an early night of california riviera for old pacific coast highway. mr. height at this very moment is up on the roof with a hose wetting down his for directly across the street. these flames are roaring down topside with a tremendous rip behind them. and the firemen are on top of two apartments wh

was an actual judiciary meeting in yuma they did not come. we would hear from the people there.he stress on the healthcare system, the stress of the border , the stress on the families. you cannot even get a hospital room if you needed to have a child or you broke your leg. those are the people that were impacted. we see this in our community. let's fast-forward to today. president trumps executive orders reinstated the remaining mexico policy. will that lead to a decrease in illegal immigrations? >> yes, sir be back i believe so , yes. >> completing construction of the border wall and funding our immigration services down there, will that lead to a decrease in illegal immigration? >> it will help. >> as long as there are no policies to undermine the deterrence. >> that is a key point. yes, ma'am. >> will designate in cartels and gangs lead to a decrease in illegal immigration? >> yes. >> i hope so. >> i hope so. >> will terminating categorical role programs lead to a decrease in illegal immigration? >> it absolutely will. >> definitely. >> yes. >> will terminating the use of th

authorities say this was the third drug tunnel discovered south of yuma this year, back in 2020, authorities celebrated after finding what they described as the most sophisticated tunnel in u.s. history. it was also found in the san luis area, and large crowds gathered in pasadena today to experience this year's tournament of roses parade. the parade is a new year's day tradition going back to 1890. each year, the parade features floral floats, bands, and other marching groups. sports legend billie jean king was the 2025 grand marshal and the theme for today, the best day ever. you can hear about the west coast top stories every weekday right here on ktvu. west coast wrap with alex savage airs at 7:00 monday through friday. are found around the clock coverage at west coast rap.com. [music] from coast to coast. americans are honoring the life of former president jimmy carter. as washington gears up for the official state funeral next week. he passed away on sunday at the age of 100, making him the longest living former president in american history. president biden will deliver the official e

apparently not looking at the numbers especially in yuma the entire last year the numbers were about 8600 i believe it was i was in total encounters. when it was unusual had 8600 encounters in a weekend. ludicrous arguments. the numbers came down, why didn't they come down you can't count people under the cbp one-act you didn't count people getting the programs. if you're not counting everybody in a course the numbers come down and that's where we sit today, the law is this asylum requester is required to remain in custody until that is adjudicated. not just the way it should be with the way the law is written. >> no when administration is been successful because of the massive number of asylum request but under this administration how many asylum requester's have been released into the country. >> too many just released into the country not put into detention as it should be. >> if they were detained by the way the law requires and president trump says he wants to enforce the law, what does that do to incentives that come into the country illegally. >> it magnetizes it forces people

today, the national weather service confirmed it did indeed touch down in a remote area of yuma county. it was on the ground for about three minutes and traveled nearly a mile. no one was hurt and no damage found. and rob, you were saying that hearing this. that's tornado alley for california. yeah. glenn, in tehama county, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen there. the wind profile there with some severe storms or low topped supercells gets that rotation in place. directional shear, which sometimes can spin up something like that. and you saw right there the alert california cameras, which is a really nice tool. the radar can see the rotation aloft, but those caras can verify it's happening at ground level. so quite a sight yesterday evening. now this site is wild, but for colors we're not looking at any severe weather. this is the view outside earlier this evening in case you missed it. look at the colors looking across the bay there to san francisco. gorgeous view. orange and pink sunset right now. not much wind and a pretty reflection across the bay. bay bridge there. off

times, see some of the highest level of illegal migrant crossings in places like this one here in yumarom mexico every day as skilled labour for their farms and they're worried that they could get caught up in stricter border regulations and, ultimately, it could end up impacting the economy here. and a reminder, we will have full live coverage of donald trump's inauguration here on bbc news, with a special programme from washington, starting at 12 gmt on monday. let's get some of the day's other news now. ajudge in bolivia has issued a new arrest warrant against the former president, evo morales, who's under investigation for statutory rape. mr morales was found in contempt of court for failing for the second time to appear at a hearing. evo morales says the charge is politically motivated. thousands of anti—government protesters led by students have rallied in the serbian capital, belgrade. their focus was on the state broadcaster accusing it of failing to report objectively. serbia has seen a wave of anti—government protests since the collapse of a railway station roof in november t

i'm a i'm a helena humphrey in yuma, arizona, where voters have been telling us they are excited, also of donald trump's second term. donald trump says he'll "most likely" give tiktok a 90—day reprieve from a potential ban in the us after he takes office on monday. hello, i'm lauren taylor. israel's prime minister benjamin has said he reserves the right to resume war with hamas "if necessary". in a statement to the israeli people hours before the gaza ceasefire is due to come into effect, he vowed to bring back all the hostages held by hamas. but he said both outgoing us presidentjoe biden and his successor donald trump have given full backing to israel's right to return to combat, should the second stage of the ceasefire prove pointless. mr netanyahu suggested that israel was still awaiting the names, from hamas, of israeli hostages to be freed. in a statement, he said, "we will not move

such as in yuma the entire last year the numbers were about 8600 and believe it was. that was a total encounters. it was not unusual in the biden ministration of 8600 encounters and weekends. ludicrous arguments. the numbers came down for it why did they come down you did not count people were flying under cbp one act. you did not count people getting if you're not counting everybody of course the numbers come down. that is will reset today. the law is this mr. fabbricatore and the seven requesters required to remain in custody until the asylum request is adjudicated as not to request. >> absolutely that's what should be. not just what it should be. with the laws written yes, sir. no way mr. smith successful at doing that there's a massive number of asylum request. under this administration how many asylum requests have been released into the country? next to minister. they are just released in the country not put into detention as they should be. >> if they were detained he wants to enforce the law what does that due to incentive to come into this country illegally?

i was at the border not in your state but in yuma, arizona, several months ago. i saw firsthand, i saw the border patrol agents and customs showed us i.d.'s and driver's license. venezuela, from all over of these countries. i.d.'s just thrown on the ground. people were allowed to walk freely into our country. senator, i never knew the definition of a disposable child. i never heard that term in my entire career until i was there. a disposable child, the agents kept recognizing a little boy coming over and over. you are familiar with it i'm sure. same little boy. sen. cruz: heatlet me ask because my -- let me ask because my time has expired anti-issue you raise is important. one statistic every american should know is is the number three 100,000. there are over 300,000 children that this administration has lost. little girls and little boys who came here unaccompanied were in this administration's custody. they handed them over to adults. many of them not blood relatives. they don't know where they are. i never seen a single democrat on this committee ask one ques

host: danny in yuma, arizona.everal outlets trying to parse this freeze to see exactly what was affected and as you heard in the white house press briefing it was the topic of several questions for karoline. it points to the federal financial assistance, surplus donations, loans, interest subsidies, and exempts assistance received directly by individuals including medicare and social security. it refers to the executive order donald trump signed january 20 which ordered department and agency heads to immediately pause new programs and disbursements of development assistance to foreign countries. the department of state announce ed that pause on sunday, though yesterday marco rubio, the new secretary of state, backtracks on the foreign aid freeze, approving waivers for that. that's the headline of "the washington post" story on it today, approving a new waiver for lifesaving humanitarian assistance in a memo sent to aid groups amidst widespread confusion and writes which programs in the $60 billion foreign aid budg

a ani went to yuma, arizona,, ad what i saw at the border was horrific, senator.s horrific. >> ms. bondi, that is not my. question. >> i went to a rape crisis center and i'm not familiar with der the statement but i went toe center and met with border agents. i'm sure you've been t go the border as well. >> went to get to the next question. >> laura: i want to make sure the staff has written the questions clearly because i can't think without my papers.pr but of course, bondi expose thep democrats real priority and it is notnow, the safety of theof american people. and most hilarious have many alibris parts of the spectacle was when democrats had the nerve to try to skewer bondi on the weaponization of the justice system. >> istemt would not be approprie for a prosecutor to start with the name and look for a cream. it is a prosecutor's job to start with a crime and look for a name correct? >> senator, that is the whole problem with the weaponization we have seen the last four yeary and what has been happening tot donald trump. they targeted donald trump. they went

this is actually the third tunnel that was found in 2024 in the yuma mexico border they're not just smuggling this border bill get through. >> we also need to see the tugs blown up -- that's the only way to get rid of the tunnels. >> surprised this happened during the biden administration and 15 days can't come soon enough. nicole. >> moving to a different topic according to a recent study engaging in activity such as reading, praying, and listening to music have been found to be effective preventing dementia yes. absolutely -- by doing stuff like that and i was really excited to see in this study that looked at praying. that actually helped decrease the risk of dementia i think everybody for 2025 needs to do something to exercise their brain focus on the brain health. i started playing i'm not good at it any stretch of the imagination so 2025 i plan to maybe get better because that really exercises my brain. >> it is like third grade now i have no idea what that is. >> majong it is incredible like a tile game but it really is -- it takes a lot of thought i'll tell you i play it at the end of

i went to yuma, arizona and what i saw at that border was horrific, senator.was horrific. >> ms. bondi. >> crisis center. >> that was not my question. >> if i can finish. i went to a rape crisis center. i'm not familiar with the statement i went to a rape crisis center. i met with border patrol agents. i'm sure you have been to the border as the well. >> i want to get to my next question. >> laura: i want to make sure my staff has written my questions clearly because i can't think without my papers. of course, once again bondi exposed the democrats' real priority and it's not the safety of the american people. now, perhaps, the most hilarious of many hilarious parts of the spectacle was when democrats had the nerve to try to secure bondi skewer bondi on the weapons of the justice system. >> it would not be appropriate to are a prosecutor to start with a name and look for a crime. it's the prosecutor's job to start with a crime and look for a name. correct? >> senator, i think that is the whole problem with the weaponization that we have seen the last four year

i went to yuma, arizona, and what i saw at the border was horrific senator. it was horrific. >> martha: so, stephen, i know you met with house republicans yesterday behind closed doors about the need to scale up immigration and reinforcement and as part of this execution of misty partition. could you give our viewers a sense of what that's going to look like on day one? >> yes. let me just also make the point that talk about poisoning the blood of our country, fentanyl is literally poisoning the blood of hundreds of thousands of americans and leading them to their graves pay or to their deaths. this is by any divination and attack on the united states of america by foreign alien enemies. that's a fact it's not debatable. as to what president trump is going to do, first and foremost he's going to reestablish the principle that the national defense of the united states is contingent upon the names and defense of the national sovereignty of the united states. you cannot be a safe or secure country until the border is protected and defended that means the departm

i went to yuma, arizona and what i saw at that border was horrific, senator. it was horrific. i went to a rape crisis center. i went to a rape crisis center. i am not familiar with the statement. i met about border patrol agents. i'm sure you've been to the border as well. >> onto my next question. so i believe that you responded to a question from senator whitehouse. let me get your response again. you said that the white house if i'm putting words in your mouth, correct me. you said that the white house will play no role in investigative or charging decisions in the d.o.j. is that correct? >> senator, what i said is that it is the department of justice's decision to determine what cases will be prosecuted. >> what role will the white house have in investigative or prosecutorial decisions of d.o.j. >> it is the department of justice's decision, >> you are saying the white house will have any kind of role. meanwhile you have an incoming president who said i have the absolute right to do what i want, to deal with the justice department. in fact, president-elect trump considers

i went to yuma, arizona, and what i saw at that border was horrific. senator. it was horrific. >> i went to a rape crisis center. that is not my question. >> i went to a rape crisis center. i'm not familiar with the statement, but i went to a rape crisis center. i met with border patrol agents. i'm sure you've been to the border as well. >> so i want to get to my next question. so. i believe that you responded to a question from senator whitehouse, and let me get your response again. you said that the white house, if i'm putting words in your mouth, correct me. you said that the white house will play no role in investigating or charging decisions in the d.o.j. is that correct, senator? >> what i said is that it is the department of justice's decision to determine what cases will be prosecuted. >> what role will the white house have in investigative or prosecutorial decisions of the doj? >> it is the department of justice's decision. senator. >> so that sounds to me that you're saying that the white house will not have any kind of role. meanwhile, though, you ha

at times see some of the highest level of illegal migrant crossings in places like this one here in yumak like. but speaking to people here in this agricultural area, they point out that up to 30,000 people cross over from mexico every day as skilled labour for their farms, and they�*re worried that they could get caught up in stricter border regulations, and ultimately it could end up impacting the economy here. and a reminder, we will have full live coverage of donald trump�*s inauguration here on bbc news, with a special programme from washington, starting at 12 gmt on monday. now, let�*s just show you the scenes from gaza right now. this is a live shot coming into us from the israel gaza border, you could see smoke earlier rising into the distance. this comes less than 2a hours before that ceasefire hostage deal is due to come into effect. this is the scene live in southern gaza as well, in the past few minutes the reuters news agency has said the israeli military is preparing to implement the gaza ceasefire deal for the return of hostages starting on sunday. stay with us here on bbc

we have about 10 to 15,000 mexican nationals that legally cross the border every day to go work in yuma, arizona. and so whenever we have slowdowns at the border, for whatever reason, you will see costs rise. this is why there is an opportunity, i think, for us to have comprehensive immigration reform, to give some of these workers a pathway to at least legalization so they can work here legally and not be afraid of being deported as well as, of course, giving us a stable labor economy that will not be met by any u.s. citizens whatsoever. but what the president wants is chaos. he wants fear, and he wants to show that he's a strong man. at the end of the end, you know, the country is not going to be much more secure and there will be more chaos, i think, in our streets than we really had hoped for. >> you're a democrat who was elected in a state that trump won on the ballot. at the same time, you have said that arizona voters elected you to strengthen the state's southern border. are you supportive of any of the moves trump's made on immigration in his first week in office? >> look, i th

i was at the bordner yuma, arizona several monthst ago. i saw firsthand the border patrol agents and customs showed us i.d.'s and driver's licenses from venezuela, all of these countries, i.d.'s thrown on the ground and people were allowed to walk freely into our country. i never knew the definition of a disposable child. i never heard that term in my entire career until i was there. a little boy coming over. you're familiar with it i'm sure. same little boy. he had been trafficked. >> let me ask, because my time has expired. the issue you're raising is so incredibly important. one statistic that everybody should know is over 300,000. there are over 300,000 children this administration have lost. little girls and little boys came here unaccompanied and they handed them over to adults, many not blood relatives and they don't know where they are. i have never seen a single democrat in this committee ask one question about 300,000 children. will you as attorney general investigate and make every effort to find those children and if they are s

i went to yuma, arizona and what i thought that border was horrific, senator. it was horrific. >> that is not my question. >> i went to a rape crisis center. [inaudible] >> let me ask you my next question. i believe that you responded to a question, let me get your response. you said that the white house, you said the white house will played no role in investigative or charging decision in the doj, is that correct? >> senator, what i said is it is the department of justice is decision to determine -- >> what role will the white house have in investigative decisions? >> it is the department of justice decision, senator. >> it is helping you that you are saying the white house will not have any role. meanwhile, the incoming president who said, they have the absolute right to do what i want to deal with the justice department. president elect trump considers the doj to be his law firm. i ask you this, president elect trump suggests or hints that u.s. attorney general should investigate one of his perceived political enemies, would you do so? >> senator, i wish you

i went to yuma, arizona and what i saw at that border was horrific senator. it was horrific. sen. hirono: miss bondi -- that is not my question. ms. bondi: i went to a rape crisis center. i'm not familiar with the statement. sen. hirono: let me get to the -- ma'am. miss bondi i want to get to my next question. i believe you responded to a question from senator whitehouse, you said that the white house, if i'm putting in words in your mouth correct me. you said the white house would play no role in investigative or charging decisions in the doj, is that correct? ms. bondi: senator, what i said is it is the department of justice's decision to determine what cases will be prosecuted. sen. hirono: what role will the white house have in investigative or prosecution role decisions of the doj? ms. bondi: it is the department of justice's decision. sen. hirono: that sounds to me that the white house will not have a role. meanwhile, you have an incoming president who said i have the absolute right to do what i want to do with the justice department. in fact, president-elect trump considers

you also mentioned the yuma example as well. and as you pointed out, you come from a place you don't have sites shutting down but more coming in. it's a good problem to have one way but you definitely need that partnership with the e.p.a. sen. kelly: it's challenging the other way. third, we're still trying to understand the long term reasons our air quality is getting worse and how to resolve that challenge. will you commit to helping maricopa develop some better models to understand why our air quality is getting worse in maricopa county and help us find some solutions to address this long term? mr. zeldin: yes, senator. sen. kelly: we know air from mexico is a serious contributor to arizona, will you commit to having region 9 and the e.p.a. office of transportation work with our local officials to assure our attainment plans account for cross border pollution? mr. zeldin: yes, i heard this concern from senator schiff and padilla as it relates to tijuana of the southern border of california and clearly is an issue across state

i went to yuma, arizona and what i thought that border was horrific, senator. it was horrific. >> that is not my question. >> i went to a rape crisis center. [inaudible] >> let me ask you my next question. i believe that you responded to a question, let me get your response. you said that the white house, you said the white house will played no role in investigative or charging decision in the doj, is that correct? >> senator, what i said is it is the department of justice is decision to determine -- >> what role will the white house have in investigative decisions? >> it is the department of justice decision, senator. >> it is helping you that you are saying the white house will not have any role. meanwhile, the incoming president who said, they have the absolute right to do what i want to deal with the justice department. president elect trump considers the doj to be his law firm. i ask you this, president elect trump suggests or hints that u.s. attorney general should investigate one of his perceived political enemies, would you do so? >> senator, i wish you

familiar with that statement, but what i can tell you is i went to the border a few months ago, i went to yumarizona, and what i saw at that border was horrific, senator. it was horrific. i went to a rape crisis center. sen. hirono: that is not my question. ms. bondi: i'm not familiar with this statement. i met with the border patrol agents. i'm sure you have been to the border as well. sen. hirono: i want to get to my next question. i believe that you responded to a question from senator whitehouse and let me get your response again. you said that the white house, if i'm putting words in your mouth correct me, use of the white house would play no role in investigative or charging decisions in the doj. is that correct? ms. bondi: senator, what i said is that it is the department of justice's decision to determine what cases will be prosecuted. sen. hirono: what role will the white house have in investigative or prosecutorial decisions of the doj? ms. bondi: it is department of justice's decision. sen. hirono: so that sounds to me that you are saying that the white house will not have any kind