i mean he came along at a time when a lot of yung black men, i s treating them and theiruntry people. as i said, it's not an accident that the black panthers strange out-- sprang out of that same era. and when they originally organized in california, they were following the cops around to make sure they didn't shoot people. i mean this was-- you know, it was a-- you know, that same era in which shortly after that, watts exploded. and then after that, the whole. >> young black men came home from the civil war. from world war 1, from world war ii, only to discover after these great battles, that home-- . >> rose: had not changed. >> had barely changed. >> ellis filled out the point i was making less well which was the combination of qualities is what made him unique and then those qualities intersected with a particular point in history. if abraham lincoln had been president in 1830, would we look upon him as perhaps the greatest president? it's always genius and greatness and context. >> nobody is making the mistake, i hope of mistaking muhammad ali for james bald win or martin king, o