these investments are teaching what they know, just like tencent and facebook were connected by yuri milnerhere is learning going both ways. so i think, i don't think tencent has global domination ambitions. i think they are primarily a chinese company, but they want to continue to increase their presence and learn and teach at the same time. emily: what do you think of amazon selling its cloud business, part of its cloud business, in china? kai-fu: i know very few domestic chinese companies using amazon services. amazon services are doing well in china for chinese companies that want to go overseas, so that i think will restrict its widespread use. i think alicloud is stronger. i think similarly google sells ads in china, but just for chinese companies to place ads outside of china, so if american companies limit themselves to the outside-going part of china, that will be such a small business, i don't think it is interesting. the only american company doing ok in china is apple actually. emily: apple returned to growth in china, but still face cheaper smartphone competitors and yet now th