yuri milnersnt, russian billionaire and steven hawking announced a $100 million project called break through listen. listen to this - the goal is to search for radio signals signs of intelligent life out there. the executive director of the space frontier foundation, the director of the advocacy of the planetary society, thank you for joining us. i would like to start with you. is the private industry really driving us forward when it comes to immigration. >> i think that the private industry is able to take risks that n.a.s.a. is not able to tyke. n.a.s.a. is funded by taxpayer dollars, and is decided by congress. the private industry, being funded by private investment and their project decided by economic value. they are able to mo faster, take risks and do things that ultimately results in innovative products where n.a.s.a. has not been able to do so. >> would you agree with that. especially as we have seen n.a.s.a.'s budget slashed so much over the last few years, is private industry able to pick up loose ends. >> yes, to some extent. the crucial point to remember is n.a.s.a. ac