streets, some of i met-- in schools, a principal in philly, teachers, the tribal judge of a tribe, the yurok tribe, which is the biggest tribe in california, councilmen, a wide variety of folks. yeah-- social scientists. yeah, and a judge in philly. >> what do you hope it becomes? you are saying it is still in development? >> well, i'll tell ya what it is now is that it is a-- it is built to provoke conversation. with the hope that conversation will lead to action. and that audiences will ironically come out of this show thinking, "wow, it's not a show, it's real. and what can i do about it?" we have lost a generation and we're losing more. and it's--kind of a moral crisis. can we really afford to just throw people away on the basis of their color, and how that color is related to their lack of opportunity? >> based on the people you've talked to, are there particular areas of failure in our society? >> i think we t-- expect too much of schools. i think it's absolutely unfair to blame teachers for this. i think it's unfair to attribute it all to school discipline. when obama made his remarks