so you have to say to yurself, if they -- there are a lot of fatcat academics. i would say reduce their tax exempt statuto make them more marketable. >> i was going to say thesame thing. we should have a policy conversationbout that. i'm might solve some of the problems. exactly, that is the problem. the lenders use to be attack on gher education. they wouldn't give you one if you're going to go to a battle that would allow you to get a job and pay it off your that is a problem that we are having. what higher education isdoing is that sense that naturalization happened, college tuition has run up 25%. the average average graduating student loan debt has gone up 20%. colleges are just running rampant. neil: we a as close as we have ever been on any issue together. so it is a moment. when we come back, chuck hagel. this i have to. ne: all right, the secretary of defense kicking up some ust. chinese officials with cybersecurity this weekend. john label says get ready for the attacks to continue their attack. he can't pin ese knuceads. but alas, he is here to offe h