i had a conversation with congresswoman yvette clark who is on the small business committee. and what she told the audience, i was on a panel with her is, look, a lot of people in congress and in the senate, they have not been small business people. and so it is incumbent upon you to go and you, as the head of the small business administration, to explain to people this is what it takes to be a small business person. let's get to the news of the week, which is tax reform. 15%, interesting for small business people directly is a 15% tax on pass through entities. is there a chance that that could happen? >> i certainly hope so. i know that president trump has been a strong advocate of this from the very beginning. it's one of the things that he and i talked about when he asked me to take on this job was reduction in taxes for our small business fess, reduction in regulations and he's delivering on that. so he's certainly putting it forth. and i think i have found that the small business agency that i'm so proud, you know, to represent and be the administrator is probably the le