yvette cooper, welcome to political thinking. good to be here, nick. to mention the powerlessness! when you watch the tory infighting this week, who is going to be leader? and nobody says keir starmer. it's, "will it bejeremy hunt, will it be borisjohnson?" does it increase that sense of frustration, of not being in power? the frustration of not being able to do things is huge, and you're right, we've had 12 years of this now. we are nearly going to have been as long out of power as we were in power. and yes, there's just this massive difference, and it is incredibly frustrating. i think it's also... it's frustrating in terms of all the things that you can do in government, but also frustrating watching them right now, because it feels like they are damaging everybody. we're going to talk about politics, as it were, in a while. but just talking about you, do you ever feel, as these years have passed on, years of opposition, "maybe i had my moment, maybe it's time to do something else"7 and seeing your husband ed develop a completely new life, are there

yvette cooper, welcome to political thinking. good to be here, nick.

which came to the cone —— when she came to the commons today, quite a combative session against yvette cooper came up in the debate when she claimed that migrants can't pretend to be asylum—seekers, a lib dem mp left on that and said that showed what patel�*s attitude towards migrants are. most migrants when they apply and finally have their cases heard, they —— their cases are genuine, but they can afford to stay. genuine, but they can afford to sta . ., ., , stay. the front page of the daily exress, stay. the front page of the daily exnress. same _ stay. the front page of the daily express, same story _ stay. the front page of the daily express, same story but - stay. the front page of the daily express, same story but very i express, same story but very different take, as you'd imagine, a different take, as you'd imagine, a different take, as you'd imagine, a different take from the guardian. their headline, "furious priti patel attacks secrecy of euro courts." what's that about? abs, attacks secrecy of euro courts." what's that about?— attacks secrecy of euro courts." what's that about? a

yvette cooper from labour described outside the government. wonderful people to get education and support but that is something that the unhcr has expressed concerns about visitors concerned about the impact of on taking uk asylum seekers for others seekers in rwanda itself. brute others seekers in rwanda itself. we don't know any details of the four people saying that they did not want to be on that flight and took the case to the high court, three who have been told by the home office that for now that they will not go on the flight, but in terms of an argument that an individual could amount to say, i should not be sent to rwanda, what sort of scope is there? ~ .., ., ., to rwanda, what sort of scope is there? ~ ., ., , ., ., there? we could do in our programme with human rights _ there? we could do in our programme with human rights lawyers _ there? we could do in our programme with human rights lawyers and - there? we could do in our programme with human rights lawyers and you - with human rights lawyers and you would balance everything f

yvette cooper was pretty robust in her criticism of the government policy today. johnson tried to thing and it's across the house to labour suggesting that they are the party that people traffickers can actually speaker, there is came forward to say that they thought that was unfair. in terms of the solution to channel crossings come i don't think there is a solution really going around, and i —— it is one of the things that keep them from the tory party which is, ok, you get it, you don't like this, but what do you have instead, because this problem has been going on for so long, the problem is getting worse, people are making dangerous journeys. problem is getting worse, people are making dangerousjourneys. so you need to bring this to the table if you're going to say this is problematic. now, ithink lots you're going to say this is problematic. now, i think lots of people will be aghast to this probably can —— policy even if there is not an alternative being put forward by labour. in terms of where the government is on this, i think that they do think this poli

labour's yvette cooper saying it and british in its intent.s they are is an injunction to stop it. an awful lot of people come into the united kingdom through various routes. although there is a little bit of a lack of specificity, there is a bit of a targeting it looks to single people who have come through either on the tories are over the channel. doing those dangerous crossings into the uk. to discourage the practice. that's what the government would argue and have been briefing in the corridors of whitehall. we argue and have been briefing in the corridors of whitehall.— corridors of whitehall. we will wait and see what _ corridors of whitehall. we will wait and see what happens _ corridors of whitehall. we will wait and see what happens before i corridors of whitehall. we will wait i and see what happens before tuesday but for the moment, thank you very much. a 14—year—old boy has been stabbed to death in manchester. the teenager's mother is being treated in hospital for serious stab wounds, after they were attacked in a property in the