yvette cooper denied diane _ consideration not to.bott had _ consideration not to. yvette cooper denied diane abbott had been - consideration not to. yvette cooper i denied diane abbott had been offered a peerage and she gave that politician was my answer, i don't know anything about that. it was a denial that she was not aware of it, but it was not ruling out that that conversation had happened. imagine mps might be offered inducements to do things by party leaders. i am not saying this happened in this case but that kind of thing does definitely go on. i but that kind of thing does definitely go on.— definitely go on. i had an interesting _ definitely go on. i had an interesting conversation | definitely go on. i had an - interesting conversation yesterday. i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? _ i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are - i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are you - i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are you having a laugh? election campaign? are

labour's yvette cooper said they would do it right away. "if it was up to me, absolutely, yes, but you will have to wait and see the manifesto." i wanted to put that out there, it is an issue we have talked about it a lot. it is one of these things where it is not the kind of meat and drink of a general election, but that whole issue of what happens to kids when they are online is massive. we know it is massive, our inboxes are always full of these things. i wanted to share that. and i have spoken about this as well and they are the most powerful, eloquent causes because of what has happened to people and their children and they are the doughtiest campaigners and any government of whatever hue that tries to delay or obfuscate, they ain't going to win. the conservative government has learned that lesson and any government would learn that pretty fast. ian russell is publishing a manifesto tomorrow, the father of molly who took her own life after her experiences on social media, so maybe that will be something that we will talk about on tomor

that was the shadow home secretary yvette cooper but the - secretary yvette cooper but the conservativeshey have a new policy saying they would build 100 new gp clinics and they would free more gp appointments by trying to divert some services to pharmacies. the concept of government already said people can i get the contraceptive pill at pharmacies rather than seeing a gp and they said they would expand the existing scheme for people who get other treatments for things like acne or chest infections at a pharmacy instead. health secretary victoria adkins was asked about the number of gp numbers have fallen but also nhs waiting laps have gone up. —— less. —— atkins. we have gone up. -- less. -- atkins. we have gone up. -- less. -- atkins. we have seen — have gone up. —— less. —— atkins. - have seen waiting list fall by 2000 since i became health secretary and we are focusing on the longest waits and those of 18 months and above. the liberal democrats also talking about health and they want to talk about health and they want to talk about putting a big focus on preventative care without fu

i shall be grilling yvette cooper.re's a quote. >> i mean, i found it really interesting that wes streeting, said on question time and it's quoted here in the article he says, i say to the headteachers, you're going to have to cut your cloth accordingly, like state schools have had to. strange argument to me because it's essentially saying, well , they essentially saying, well, they went through austerity, therefore you need you to it's levelling down. it's not it's not aspirational. >> keeps on banging on about the cost of living. does he not think that energy bills going up and wages i mean, does he not want teachers to be paid adequately? this is the other thing. we've got the unions also in the sunday telegraph saying, well, if you're going to make private school teachers redundant, we're not for it. so that one will run and run. and i will speak to yvette cooper about it later. let's talk about whether nigel farage of this parish, formerly of this parish, temporarily engaged in other matters because i've been cove

yvette cooper was asked about that.she repeatedly refused to put a numerical target audit for the largely because the conservative when they have done that have missed the target. you can understand why she's doing it politically. i wonder in practice when you need a number to work to. i in practice when you need a number to work to. ~ in practice when you need a number to work to— to work to. i think the reason not ut a to work to. i think the reason not put a number _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is _ to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is ludicrous - to work to. i think the reason not put a number on is ludicrous thati to work to. i think the reason not l put a number on is ludicrous that is totally— put a number on is ludicrous that is totally context dependent and everyone who's done it has found it to he _ everyone who's done it has found it to he a _ everyone who's done it has found it to be a hostage to fortune. and lots of

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that's really the thing that keir starmer and yvette cooper have been talking about most today. what labour would do to reduce those levels net migration is to essentially combine the immigration system with the skills and workforce system with the skills and workforce system so she said for example in engineering over the last few years said the engineering visas people coming from overseas have been going up coming from overseas have been going up but people doing apprenticeships and training in the uk has been going down and that is something of say liberal tightest change. interestingly not just the say liberal tightest change. interestingly notjust the thing yvette cooper said but keir starmer mentioned with a interview sunday were strengthening laws to ban businesses that exploit workers from hiring staff overseas. we have not gotten off also detail on what that might mean. some people said it is potentially similar to a policy gordon brown put forward several years ago but we are trying to get more details on what exactly that might look like. clearly immigration are some

so, yvette cooper, let's start with that big promise, infive yvette cooper, let's start with that bigsk in the home office in charge of migration. how many more people do you think should be able to come and live in the uk illegally? that is what we mean by net migration. 50. what we mean by net migration. so, net what we mean by net migration. srr, net migration what we mean by net migration. s57, net migration has what we mean by net migration. s513, net migration has trouble since what we mean by net migration. s53, net migration has trouble since the last election. to a record high, really. and that has reflected partially big increases in work migration. the office for national statistics will tell you that there has been a big increase, that is now the biggest factor, work visas have doubled over a series of years, work migration even in the last 12 months alone has gone up by around 50%. we think that that is a problem, we think that that is a problem, we think that that is a problem, we think that net migration needs to come down, and that means you have to tackle the issues t

however, when the shadow home secretary yvette cooper was asked on the bbc just now about what type ofrs labour would be looking to bring down that figure to, she didn't give a specific answer. we would expect to see the numbers coming down swiftly. we have supported some of the measures that are expected to come in next place and we also want to make sure that we can move quickly on some of these recruitment areas, that really, it's just notjustified to have the overseas recruitment, i think at the heart of this, there is a difference in approach. what the conservatives have done over the last five years is to have effectively a free market, unregulated approach to migration. we don't think that's right — we think you need intervention, you need both controls, the system has to be controlled and managed... so that was the shadow home secretary yvette cooper talking about that immigration pledge from labour. the conservatives, though, mainly talking about health today, they have got a new policy saying that they would build 100 new gp clinics and that they would also free up more gp ap

so that was the shadow home secretary yvette cooper talking about that immigration pledge from labourervatives, though, mainly talking about health today, they have got a new policy saying that they would build 100 new gp clinics and that they would also free up more gp appointments by trying to divert some services to pharmacies, the conservative government already, for example, said that people can now get the contraceptive pill at pharmacies rather than having to see a gp, they said they would expand that existing scheme to mean that people can get treatment for other conditions, acne or chest infections, at a pharmacy instead. but the health secretary victoria atkins was also pushed earlier on the bbc about two things, one, that the number of gp clinics has actually fallen by 450, since the conservatives have been in power, but also that nhs waiting lists on the whole have been going up, too. 0ur response has been to put in place recovery plans after the pandemic and we have seen waiting lists fall by 200,000 since i've become health secretary. but importantly we have been focusin

that is what yvette cooper has been saying- i _ now? that is what yvette cooper has been saying.hat where i have had frustrations, it is because we spoke almost exclusively about rwanda and we didn't speak about things like the small boat operation command. hang on, this is an important point. because it has been reported... it has been reported many times, and until now you have not denied that you used a very rude word to describe the policy. are you now denying that? i’ge describe the policy. are you now denying that?— describe the policy. are you now den in: that? �* , , ., denying that? i've said this before, i said this denying that? i've said this before, i said this in _ denying that? i've said this before, i said this in an _ denying that? i've said this before, i said this in an interview _ denying that? i've said this before, i said this in an interview within i i said this in an interview within days of being appointed that my frustration, and if i have used intemperate language, is because my frustration was, as a government, we spoke exclusively about one policy, an

it secretary, yvette cooper.ign labour by training unemployed britons for jobs in care, construction and engineering, and the aim is to end the current system that incentivises businesses to recruit overseas by offering a 20% discount. now, in the meantime, the tories now they're pushing ahead with their controversial plan to deport asylum seekers to rwanda, despite legal challenges and delays. yet no planes have even left the uk. and then on the other side , reform uk, led by other side, reform uk, led by richard tice, proposes a higher national insurance rate for businesses employing foreign workers, and their plan aims to kerb the uk's dependency on cheap overseas labour and reinvest the additional revenue in training and apprenticeships for young people. right. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking which party the plans that you're listening to gets your vote on migration. of course, there are other parties as well. and we'll have a look at the liberal democr

>> good and good for yvette coopen >> good and good for yvette cooper.re. and look, ella's right. you know, one way of looking at it you could say is looking at it you could say is look at these. just there's just one off incidents. is this a crazy moron, this sort of person who doesn't like farage. and that's true. but when you've got a kind of sort of demonising rhetoric in the public square and, and you've got the sort of implicit permission from people who ought to know better, even though they're free to say whatever they want. yes. then you are going to start to see these, these events happening, especially when there's no clear when they're consequence free actions , so yeah, it's a real actions, so yeah, it's a real concern . i would have thought concern. i would have thought that the least the government could do at this point is give nigel farage some round the clock security until just as all home secretaries and former home secretaries do , and the prime secretaries do, and the prime minister has until at least until the election . until the

is there not a genuine risk that a labour government with the home secretary of yvette cooper , withette cooper, with the refugees welcome sign, you know, might end up actually becoming some kind of magnet for these people in a way that even more than we are, i think there's no doubt that on july the 5th, if keir starmer is prime minister and yvette cooper's home secretary, the first issue they're going to have is the summer migration crisis. >> yeah, i live in kent. this has been going on for years . and has been going on for years. and on july the 5th, the small boat crossings and the asylum claims are not going to suddenly stop, given, as you've just said , the given, as you've just said, the french are going to be policing the olympics. it's going to get worse. now the question is, what's the labour government going to do about it? they've said they're going to increase the border security forces and beef that area up. that's not going to happen overnight. it takes time to recruit and train people, etc. and i think, frankly, for the first year, whoever was, whether it was a tory

so how comes when yvette cooper says it , scarlett, it's cooper says it, scarlett, it's not racist.> it's common sense, as you say. gordon brown did say it. >> he did say he did say it. stick for it. >> and, and so what he's actually talking about seriously , is, is about skills. because what we don't do at the moment is we don't train people. i mean, i was reading an article about, apprenticeships and what's so terrible about them is that people call them apprentice , so the bad bosses can can pick up the money. they these people are not paid even the minimum wage , and they're certainly not wage, and they're certainly not trained. and what we need to do , trained. and what we need to do, we do need to skill people up. i mean, it is ridiculous that, i mean, it is ridiculous that, i mean, we steal nurses from places like the philippines. if you go into a london hospital, i mean , it is packed with very mean, it is packed with very well trained and really good filipino nurses, right? but they're we're taking them from other places. other places have paid for them to be trained. so ac

my you know what yvette cooper is. yes, we need more community and visible policing, but we also need the police to do their job. and actually, if do theirjob. and actually, if you are being robbed, it is the job of the police to come and deal with it. and that is the same in rural communities where you know the police. yes, of course they're overstretched and there's not enough of them and all the rest of it. and we know why. but, you know, if crimes don't get reported because people don't think they're going to be investigated, then they don't appear on any statistics. so then you get into this vicious circle of saying, oh, crime is going down. well, actually, they're not. people have just given up. and that's really dangerous. yeah really dangerous. >> this charlie, the only thing i was going to add, which i absolutely agree with yvette on this, which is quite surprising, i know, i know steady , i've had i know, i know steady, i've had a couple of sugars in my tea, but the one thing that she said, which is absolutel

but his shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, told us this morning that it wouldn't be wise to set aarget figure . target figure. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservatives. one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration . we're not been work migration. we're not setting a target, a specific target on it. and the reason for thatis target on it. and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years . they've discredited many years. they've discredited the whole process, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers. and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach that is about bringing net migration down and tackling the failings in the system . in the system. >> yvette cooper they're speaking to us this morning. well the conservatives on their campaign trail have said they would free up 20 million gp appointments by the end of the next parliament if they return into power. they're prom

but the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has refused to set a target or a date for when the numbersthat you are effectively trying to suggest that i set a target, or a broad target. i am not going to do that. we are going to be clear, net migration must come down. we believe it is really important and what keir has set out is a commitment that we will bring net migration down. the snp leader, john swinney, has launched his party's general election campaign, saying a vote for them will ensure decisions "can be made in scotland, for scotland". less than a month after taking charge, he called on the party to unite, to beat a resurgent labour, and the tories, both of whom he says, would be bad for scotland. john swinney says this election is the snp's biggest challenge in years. to move on from policy disputes, personnel changes and a police investigation into party finances, he's going on the attack, accusing the conservatives of chaos and labour of lurching to the right. there are some people telling me to forget about independence at this election. but you know what? after looking at

but home secretary james cleverly then clashed with his counterpart yvette cooper on lbc.ary suggested they might use the dublin agreement. do you remember that to send migrants back to the eu country that they originated from? >> we used to have the dublin agreement, which did have some returns to europe, and we were did also mean that we would give for young people. >> we were a net recipient. the arrangement that you're talking about will inevitably mean the uk becomes a net recipient of illegal migrants. we estimate about 100,000 additional. >> this is just invented. this is just fantasy. but the point is just fantasy. but the point is this is just total garbage. no, i mean seriously, no. hang on. no, he shouldn't be allowed to just, you know, basically make stuff up or tell lies. i mean, that is just not on. >> it's interesting though, isn't it ? because, they both isn't it? because, they both lied there, but anyway, for what it's worth, this is a devious plan to stop the boats. >> first of all, a lot of people are coming on the small boats are coming on the small boa

we had camilla tominey asking yvette cooper about what that number could look like.r an answer. arlene, do you think the days of trying to bnng think the days of trying to bring immigration down to the tens of thousands are just over? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, you know, isn't it interesting you mentioned tens of thousands when the number, of course, is now in hundreds of thousands. and the reason why all of the parties are talking about immigration, of course, is that it's one of the key issues in this election. cost of living , the nhs and immigration. those are the three top issues for people when they're voting and therefore the parties. the tory party today is looking at the nhs as we've just seen. ed davey on his bike , talking about the on his bike, talking about the nhs, yet another stunt from ed. we're all looking forward to what the next one is going to be, but it is important for people in the country, and that's why that's why these leaders are talking about it. >> absolutely. i'm just going to bnngin >> absolutely. i'm just going to bring in pi

year's net migration figure of 685,000, he says, has to come down, while shadow home secretary yvette cooper refused to put a time frame on that promise or to set any specific targets . any specific targets. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservatives. one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration. we're not setting a target , a specific setting a target, a specific target on it, and the reason for thatis target on it, and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years. they've discredited the whole process. yes, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach that is about bringing net migration down and tackling the failings in the system. >> meanwhile, the conservatives say that they would free up 20 million gp appointments by the end of the next parliament. that's if they return to power. they're promising 100 new gp surgeries across england

but speaking earlier — the shadow home secretary yvette cooper refused to set a target or any date byeduction would be achieved. net migration, the difference between the number of people arriving in the uk and leaving, stood at 685,000 last year. labour's plans include more apprenticeships in jobs that are currently reliant on a significant level of migrant workers. here's our political correspondent lone wells. immigration is a sticky issue in this election campaign, and both major parties say they want to control it. labour says it would train more uk workers to fill skills shortages and it says firms that pay exploitative wages would be banned from hiring foreign workers. but labour have not put a figure on how much they would reduce it by, or a timeframe for when. i know that you are effectively trying to suggest i set a target or a broad target, i am not going to do that. we are going to be clear, net migration must come down, we believe it is important, and what keir has set out is commitments that we will bring migration down. the conservatives and the liberal democrats have a

this is, from yvette cooper, shadow home secretary.kers, like care, health, construction and engineering. >> yeah . well, i'll tell you >> yeah. well, i'll tell you what i have to say. this is absolute common sense , isn't it? absolute common sense, isn't it? we should be. why are we shipping people over to do jobs? and we've got unemployed people over here. >> it's totally common sense. but what gets me is that other parties, such as ukip, have campaigned on this, and they've been shouted down as racists. yeah, and yet here we are, labour coming out with the same policy, although of course, many years ago i'm old enough to remember that even gordon brown talked about british jobs for british workers. yeah, but then the labour party changed. but it's also interesting because, yes, labour are also promising to cut migration in. now, that's not difficult given that it's what, not difficult given that it's what, 685,000 not difficult given that it's what, 685,000 this year, 750,000 last year. but again, how are they going to do that? it s

in an interview with laura kuenssberg on sunday, shadow home secretary yvette cooper would not put a ooper would not put a number on it, she just said she wanted immigration to come down unto the chief rabbi training and skilling up more bricks. —— she wanted immigration to come down by training and skilling up come down by training and skilling up more brits. there would be an extra legal point which if parliament is putting into law a specific number, but would be a specific number, but would be a specific number, but would be a specific number, no matter the external shocks or whatever else might happen. reform uk say they want net migration to fall to zero. net migration is when you is when you account also for people leaving the uk. �* , you account also for people leaving the uk. �*, ., ~ ., the uk. let's talk about the debate, the uk. let's talk about the debate, the first head-to-head _ the uk. let's talk about the debate, the first head-to-head between - the uk. let's talk about the debate, the first head-to-head between sir| the first head—to—head between sir keir starmer an

who wants to be his home _ yvette cooper who wants to be his home secretary, how and when.ic, we have been talking to one of— the atlantic, we have been talking to one of donald trump's lawyers after _ to one of donald trump's lawyers after his— to one of donald trump's lawyers after his convictions, now a convicted _ after his convictions, now a convicted felon, she tells us nothing _ convicted felon, she tells us nothing will stop him running for the white — nothing will stop him running for the white house. all of that and more _ the white house. all of that and more at — the white house. all of that and more at nine o'clock. stay with us. more to come on the programme. hello, this is breakfast with ben boulos and sarah campbell. election campaigning has entered its second weekend and the parties are on the trail competing for voters' support. over the next five weeks leading up to polling day, we'll bring you reaction from across the uk. let's take a look at leicester, where like across the country, the city council's getting ready for the election count. 0ur reporter e

shadow home secretary yvette cooper refused to put a time frame or set a specific target on that promise . promise. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservative was one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration . we're has been work migration. we're not setting a target a specific target on it. and the reason for thatis target on it. and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years. they've discredited the whole process, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers. and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach that is about bringing net migration down and tackling the failings in the system . in the system. >> meanwhile, the conservatives have said they would free up 20 million gp appointments by the end of the next parliament if they return to power. the party are promising 100 new gp surgeries in england and, they say, to modernise 150 others. the party's also pledging to expand t

and yvette cooper shadow home secretary is refusing to put a number on what she wants net migration to >> well, again, and i understand the question, and i know that you're effectively trying to suggest i. i set a target or a broad target. i'm not going to do that. we are going to be clear. net migration must come down. we believe it's really important. and what clear care has set out is commitments that we will bring net migration down on illegal immigration, labour are pledging more home office staff to clear the backlog, establish a new border security command to prosecute trafficking gangs and work more closely with the eu. >> however, scepticism has been raised due to this picture of yvette cooper, with a sign saying refugees welcome and sir keir starmer winning a legal battle to ensure dubious asylum seekers have better access to taxpayer funded benefits. the conservatives, on the other hand a , conservatives, on the other hand , a plan to stop the boats legal migration coming down. >> that's what we offer. keir starmer doesn't believe in any of those things, and that's the choic

but shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it's another empty promise , says it's another empty promiseolved. labour says it's committed to delivering free breakfast clubs in primary schools as part of the first phase of a new child care plan. it says it will save parents over £400 a year and cut almost half a million days of school absence for parents who already pay absence for parents who already pay for alternative before school childcare. labour's funded breakfast clubs could cut the cost by up to £50 a week, delivering savings of almost £2,000 across a school year . £2,000 across a school year. labour's shadow education secretary, bridget phillipson, says it's the first step towards delivering a transformation in childcare . michael mosley's wife childcare. michael mosley's wife says she's devastated after his body was found on the greek island where they'd been on houday island where they'd been on holiday together. doctor claire bailey mosley described her husband as wonderful, funny, kind and brilliant. doctor mosley, who was 67, was with his wife and friends at a beach on the

but shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it's another empty promise , says it's another empty promiselved. labour says it's committed to delivering free breakfast clubs in primary schools as part of the first phase of a new child care plan. it says it will save parents over £400 a year and cut almost half a million days of school absence for parents who already pay absence for parents who already pay for alternative before school childcare. labour's funded breakfast clubs could cut the cost by up to £50 a week, delivering savings of almost £2,000 across a school year . £2,000 across a school year. labour's shadow education secretary, bridget phillipson, says it's the first step towards delivering

but his shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, told us this morning that it wouldn't be wise to set a time frame or a target figure . target figure. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservatives. one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration . we're not been work migration. we're not setting a target, a specific target on it. and the reason for thatis target on it. and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years . they've discredited many years. they've discredited the whole process, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers. and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach that is about bringing net migration down and tackling the failings in the system . in the system. >> yvette cooper they're speaking to us this morning. well the conservatives on their campaign trail have said they would free up 20 million gp appointments by the end of the next parliament if they return into p

but we can't draw broad brush conclusions and i think yvette cooper in that debate actually said, wellt queuing, they are arriving. and statistically she would be right there because up to the six months this current this year , 2024 is a record of this year, 2024 is a record of 12,000 plus, which is higher than last year and higher than the record year, which was 2022. so she she can point to that to say, well, she can, but but in turn, the government can point to the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have made the journey from africa to lampedusa , the number of lampedusa, the number of individuals turning up in, in greece, in italy, in france and then making their way through other countries is far higher this year than it has been on any other year. so potentially as a percentage term, might it be that the growth isn't as extreme? >> yes. that's certainly a point, but if we're suggesting whether the policy is in place is acting as a deterrent, we know that, for example, lampedusa has had a problem with arrivals , for the last couple of arrivals, for the last couple of years

. >> yvette cooper came out and condemned it. james cleverly came out and condemned it.and i'll tell you what, my reaction was real anger with that nutter who, through whatever it was at nigel farage, compared unacceptable. we've had two mps of both parties murdered in the last few years in this country, and you know, people like that, we ought to throw the book at them, in a minute, i shall get to you. i want to show you a clip of dawn butler, one of the things that she has done today is very weird. everyone i can tell you that. and i want to talk about nigel farage in a second. and you do say that, you know, we've had and we have had two mps murdered. absolutely horrendous. vie. i remember the last one, david amess that was murdered by an islamist fanatic. and i remember the conversation , and i remember the conversation, being all about how we should be nicer to each other on social media. no one was actually willing to address the issues behind why that mp lost his life . do you remember that? yeah. no, no, no, absolutely. >> and we do need to address the underlying

because you could have scored a win there against shadow home secretary yvette cooper, who on my shown sunday refused to put a target on it. and i think people watching and listening to this will say, well, if you don't put a target on it, then you can't control immigration. really. you need a kind of you can say to yourself, look, immigration is a good thing, but we've had too much of a good thing. therefore we're going to cap the numbers at, say, 200,000. why don't you put a cap on it and say what that cap is to give the public reassurance that you can control this issue? >> well, some numbers i can give are the measures we've taken already, the higher salary threshold, banning the dependents and spouses for students and for care workers. that's going to reduce the number by 300,000. so that's a firm number that your listeners and your viewers can take to the bank straight away. in terms of the new announcement, the cap, we're going to consult with the migration advisory committee because we do need higher skilled. i think higher skilled people. it's reasonable to have them come in.

potential to act as a deterrent in that regard, what do you make of the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper well, even if it labour saying, well, even if it works, we're still going to scrap it? well, i find that very difficult to understand, frankly. the only way that is going to discourage people from coming across illegally, if it actually works, and it does so on a regular basis , is and if on a regular basis, is and if they are saying now we're going to abandon it anyway. yes, i'm afraid that numbers are simply going to go up. >> but there is a promise in this manifesto of a legally binding cap on migration, which is progress, isn't it? help or not? >> well, they've been saying that for a few weeks now, and it was something that robert jenrick recommended in a paper that he wrote with, neil o'brien, the cps paper , they o'brien, the cps paper, they were saying, yes, we need a cap. and that's absolutely right . we and that's absolutely right. we believe that the only way to reduce immigration is to have a cap. but frankly , when you look cap. but frankly, when you look at what their pro

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year's net migration figure of 685,000, he says, has to come down, while shadow home secretary yvette coopertime frame on that promise or to set any specific targets . any specific targets. >> well, net migration has trebled in the last five years under the conservatives. one of the biggest drivers of that has been work migration. we're not setting a target , a specific setting a target, a specific target on it, and the reason for thatis target on it, and the reason for that is partly because the conservatives have just effectively ripped up all the targets that they've set over many years. they've discredited the whole process. yes, but also more importantly, because there are short term factors that can affect the numbers and what we think instead is we need to have a long term approach

almost identical by yvette cooper who hopes to be home secretary, saying she was appalled by the attacking about how parliamentary security authorities are quite good but sometimes they are worried it isn't good enough. one said to me that they had to think about whether they should pay for their own security and also threats to family members. when we talk about the culture created — when we talk about the culture created by some national leaders, farage _ created by some national leaders, farage is — created by some national leaders, farage is one of those people. bristol— farage is one of those people. bristol is — farage is one of those people. bristol is a city of 42 square miles — bristol is a city of 42 square miles. people from different backgrounds live there. the number of times— backgrounds live there. the number of times we — backgrounds live there. the number of times i've looked at how national politics— of times i've looked at how national politics frame national debates in a way that— politics frame national debates in a way that doesn't help our ability to create _ way

i asked that same question of yvette cooper when the party unveiled its manifesto in at the co—op hqe she is saying why would we successive governments have tried to put a number on it? going back to david cameron in 2010, saying under 100,000, tens of thousands was a figure. they've never got near that. in fact, the number has gone down dramatically the other way. so they're not going to go play a numbers game as they always say it. that's clever politics, because we as journalists want to get a figure to tell our viewers and listeners what the figure is. if labour were in power, they won't go there, but they are forecast to get probably halving in net migration to maybe 300,000 in september. again, the further question why on earth has this government gone for an early election when the figures on net migration are looking better? instead, labour can claim it's their win when it happens. >> indeed. and now betting gate continues . this time, five continues. this time, five further police officers implicated . implicated. >> yes, more than that, the gambling commission have sent the

and yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary, she wants to be in charge of this area of policy, doesn'the's going to do with those who have arrived illegally in this country. right okay. >> so the problem is there are so many people whose claims are not being processed. that's why we've got so many people in hotels. it is ridiculous. and within that first year, the labour government, if we are lucky enough to be in government, will have another thousand caseworkers. you've got to go through those. >> and if we say no, let's say we say no to half of them, or 60, 70, 80% of them, then what? >> well, you have to have a proper a proper conversation . proper a proper conversation. and let me finish my point here. you have to have a proper agreement with the countries that people are arriving from who have no right to be here from. >> does that mean does that mean you need an agreement with afghanistan, with the taliban? >> well, well, no . afghanistan. >> well, well, no. afghanistan. if you have been in afghanistan, we have we have routes for you to come here. i think we recognise . recognis

labour's response, the shadow home secretary yvette cooper described it as a desperate pledge and saids you have just been hearing, they make similar points, saying 6000 crimes go unresolved everyday. criticism from those parties, but rishi sunak will be looking to put the of last week behind him and focus on crime and policing today. behind him and focus on crime and policing today-— behind him and focus on crime and policing today. some fascinating and dramatic results _ policing today. some fascinating and dramatic results from _ policing today. some fascinating and dramatic results from the _ policing today. some fascinating and dramatic results from the european l dramatic results from the european election. there was a surge in support for the hard right in france, where marine le pen's national rally party defeated the centrists of president emmanuel macron. it's prompted monsieur macron to call a snap general election. he said he could not resign himself to the right�*s progress. overall, support for the european centre—right has held firm — that's the grouping of the commissio