that prompted my guest, zac goldsmith, to quit suna k�*s government. n an age of populist politics, has going green become another ideological faultline? zac, lord goldsmith, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it's a pleasure to have you here. just a couple of months ago, you left rishi sunak�*s government, and, as you left, you lobbed a political grenade in his direction. why did you do that? my concern is that, you know, i'm maybe a rare thing, a minister who cares passionately, or cared passionately about my portfolio. and ifound myjob was becoming untenable, it was becoming impossible for me to go forward. it was becoming virtually impossible to prevent government from sliding back. and the key issue is this pledge which was made by borisjohnson, repeated by liz truss, repeated a few times by rishi sunak around international climate finance, from which so much of what the uk has done over the last few years flows, and that pledge was being broken. you say, because it was a pledge of something over... £11.6 billion over five years. ..over

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see the full interview with the former environment minister on hardtalk. environment minister, zac goldsmithare wake — or at 11.30 in the evening, and of course later on bbc iplayer. mark drakeford mark dra keford is mark drakeford is expected to quit as first minister before 2026 although no date is set. he said it was important to have a refresh. thousands of people on the universal credit are having money deducted to pay for their utility bills despite a legal case challenging it it isn't required from those... anyone on old—style benefits must give consent, but it isn't required from those on universal credit. the department for work and pensions insists it "strikes a fair balance". ellen simpson keeps a close eye on her systems. ellen simpson keeps a close eye on hersystems. it ellen simpson keeps a close eye on her systems. it caused her bills to rocket. no one would listen to her and before she knew it, things got worse. the utility company started taking over £80 a month out of her benefits without her consent. she was one of about 200,000 people affected. it was one of about 200,000

and i've got to say, the government and i've got to say zac goldsmith, our old friend zac, pushed verynd that is there is now a marine protection area around ascension. so, yes, it has fantastic protective function, but i don't think it's going to be for the immigrants and i don't think there's any point throwing the falklands into the into that, katie, because i think may might push think they may that might push the to say, the falkland islands to say, well, we should be well, maybe we should be malvinas after all. well, i think the falkland islands council they don't council has said that they don't want it. want to do it. >> there is a democracy in >> and there is a democracy in the falklands. >> i essentially you're >> i think essentially you're not none of not allowed to vote. none of those 900 people have have a right to vote for reasons i can't remember now. but that's where it is. >> they're not really >> well, they're not really permanent are they? >> well, they're not really perman mainly are they? >> well, they're not really perman mainly service|re they? they're mainly ser

matthew lazer , your nominee. >> mine is lord zac goldsmith, a tory peer, former minister friend the light as he's voting labour he's considering voting labour for election. hasn't for the next election. he hasn't actually but actually got a vote, but supporting next supporting labour in the next election a vote election he hasn't got a vote because peer. this is because he's a peer. but this is long running for long ago he was running for mayor well, that long ago i mayor well, not that long ago i was doors the was knocking on doors for the labour lee anderson , labour party with lee anderson, but story . but that's another story. >> he's gone the right way. he's gone the right way. but look , gone the right way. but look, i've got to go close to home. of course . s our brilliant producer course. s our brilliant producer , ben leo, keeping those in authority on ust today's greatest britain union . jack has greatest britain union. jack has time now, though. christine hamilton, who's is councillor irim ali, who is a cabinet member of newcastle who ben tracked down to indeed who is a c

matthew lazer , your nominee. >> mine is lord zac goldsmith, a tory peer, former minister friend the as he's voting labour he's considering voting labour for election. hasn't for the next election. he hasn't actually but actually got a vote, but supporting next supporting labour in the next election a vote election he hasn't got a vote because peer. this is because he's a peer. but this is long running for long ago he was running for mayor well, that long ago i mayor well, not that long ago i was doors the was knocking on doors for the labour lee anderson , labour party with lee anderson, but story . but that's another story. >> he's gone the right way. he's gone the right way. but look , gone the right way. but look, i've got to go close to home. of course . s our brilliant producer course. s our brilliant producer , ben leo, keeping those in authority on ust today's greatest britain union . jack has greatest britain union. jack has time now, though. christine hamilton, who's is councillor irim ali, who is a cabinet member of newcastle who ben tracked down to indeed who is a cabinet

and zac goldsmith was a former environment minister.t won't be anyone to know that be lost on anyone to know that both zac goldsmith and nadine were huge supporters of boris johnson and so i think it is a shame that nadine has never supported rishi sunak. she's obviously been very fond and was a fan of boris johnson, and we all were a fan of boris johnson. but at that time has come to an end. but i think for nadine dorries, you know, you've got to ask yourself, what it that ask yourself, what is it that you out of this letter? but you want out of this letter? but what is it that you've essentially wanted throughout your in politics? your time in politics? >> i wonder if she has laid herself bare a little bit because we know she hung for on two months. and you could argue selfishly try to find out why selfishly to try to find out why she wasn't made a member of the house you know, house of lords. you know, because she clearly thinks that she be in the house of she should be in the house of lords, also she says, lords, but also she says,

. >> so in a tweet, zac goldsmith said the decision was barbaric. tavistock, as i said, was due to be shut down earlier this year, but its closure has been delayed until 2024. stephanie davis array is the director of transgender trend and joins us now. does zac goldsmith have a point in all of this? somebody with those , you this? somebody with those, you know, that sort of volume of mental health problems should they be able to have this kind of , you know, life they be able to have this kind of, you know, life changing surgery ? surgery? >> be well, let's look at what we're talking about. we're talking about 20 now, 22 year old who attended the tavistock at age 14. so at age 14, this girl who was in who had been put in care , who was autistic, who in care, who was autistic, who had mental impairment. in care, who was autistic, who had mental impairment . and post had mental impairment. and post traumatic stress disorder, so incredibly fun , honourable and incredibly fun, honourable and traumatised child, went to the tavistock first at age 14. the

the same cabinet as rishi sunak in a resignation letter, you scroll back to about a month and zac goldsmitho absolutely put the bootin letter also absolutely put the boot in to this prime minister but here, as raqeeb was intimating , she talks about his intimating, she talks about his his sort of his his gleaming smile, she talks about his prada shoes. she talks about his savile row suit and perhaps the most devastating line at all. if your of all if you're rishi sunakis your of all if you're rishi sunak is she said that he's basically been presiding over what she described as a zombie parliament and said what exactly has been done, what exactly have you achieved since you became prime minister? be in no doubt this is politically damaging to rishi sunak because she represents some sort of a constituency within the tory party? >> absolutely. and raqib , we're >> absolutely. and raqib, we're heading now for a by—election she she wants that called at the earliest possible moment. that's september the 4th. so we're looking like late october looking at like a late october polling. of 24,664. pol