coming up, two more guests with us, zachary karabell with the dai"the daily beast." show is free flowing as the movement. what do you think? i walked through the area, and they have food stands and support systems, and some people are singing gospel music or john lenin. >> it reminds me of being in college, and i mean that in a good way, like from a bigger perspective, and the worst thing is apathy. the fact that you have people involved and engaged whether you disagree or agree, and from the perspective if the united states is going to pull itself out of the funk, we need that energy. >> i love that you hit on the apathy. when the tea party movement was taking off you heard a lot of people on the left and a lot of progressives saying there was no counter to the tea party movement. fast and furious. and there was no immediate counter. is this the counter. >> it's the beginning seeds of that. it makes sense that this is in new york. this is the financial capital. >> people want shout-outs about their rallies. don't forget houston or arizona. this is not here any more.