on zakir, he is a taliban commander in afghanistan. and, again, engaged with us. i can get back to with you more specifics on what we picked up in a classified setting, ma'am, not today. but i can get back you to. >> just to put it, i look forward to having more detail on. that but just to put it in perspective, both of these individuals are engaged in activities to kill americans or our allies, are they not? >> that's correct, senator. >> and so i can't imagine how frustrating it must be, obviously, for our troops to reencounter one -- someone we've had already in detention. and so one of the concerns i've had is what do we do if tomorrow we recapture them in terms of where do we detain them, to interrogate them? and we, admiral, you testified before the committee last year that, for example, if we got them, we couldn't hold them in afghanistan. we needed a place, a long-term detention facility that that would be helpful. can you help me, both of you, where are we on that and what would we do if we captured the two individuals we talked about again tomorrow in te