, you don't know the city man from zamagorov, that is, yes, that... nokogorov, who is very, very familiar and terribly close to us, may be a complete stranger, and it is necessary to somehow successfully tell the world about him. we don't have much time left, 10 minutes, i want to ask you about something, you said that you an optimist, an optimist, and you think that among ukrainian intellectuals there are people who can re-think... re-imagined russia, yes , they re-thought the russian imperial framework, and if i could ask you, maybe you could name a few such people , but i have one such person, and even two russians whom i should name, but let 's start with the names, well, you know, this is difficult, because i think that often russian intellectuals are still. themselves have a huge blind spot , despite everything, even these well-intentioned people have a huge blind spot, where they it is difficult to see myself precisely from these imperial positions, however, i am such an even slightly utopian utopian optimist, it always seems to me that everything is not as bad as it seems, and you