she will also be joined by one of the stars of the new film, zana marjanovic. we are glad you have joined us. the conversation with angelina jolie coming up right now. >> every community has a martin luther king boulevard. it's the cornerstone we all know. it's not just a street or boulevard, but a place where walmart stands together with your community to make every day better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and every answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: pleased to welcome angelina jolie to the program. she is making her directorial debut with a project called "in the land of blood and honey." we are also delighted to have one of the stars of the film, zana marjanovic. the movie opens december 23 in new york and los angeles. more citie

. >> rose: we continue with angelina jolie joined by actors zana marjanovic and rade serbedzija. >> i love angelina as an actress. >> i know. >> but it was script. she's sending me this, i really fell in love with this beautiful story. i think she reached... i like to say she reached some depth of greek tragedy with this story. >> we never thought it could happen to us and it did. so it can happen any time and anywhere. and which is why it's so important that things like this film are made. that it keeps reminding us so that hopefully it won't happen again. >> rose: we conclude with the son of former israeli prime minister ariel sharon. >> the world knows that my father is an historical leader and i bring the less known side of him, the warm and loving family man. >> rose: director angelina jolie and actors from her film "in the land of blood and honey" and the son of ariel sharon, gilad sharon wn we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie se. >> rose: angelina jolie isere. she's an actress, director, ther, and humanitar

zana marjanovic, the film's star remembers her first impression. >> i thought it was so -- it was just so true and i felt it was, you know, it had to be written by a bosnian because it was -- it was just unbelievable. >> reporter: and this summer bosnia said thank you. she was presented with a special award at a sarajevo film festival to recognize the attention she's brought to the continuing impact of the conflict. jolie sees her celebrity as a tool, a means to an end. >> i wouldn't have been able to get this film made if i didn't, you know, have the success i'd had and many situations around the world i wouldn't be able to go and do any of the work i've been doing for the last ten years if i couldn't -- if i didn't have that so i'm grateful for it. >> reporter: whether visiting refugee camps in her role as good will ambassador for the united nations or trying to help these children in afghanistan, she's a tireless advocate who tells me that she finds this work more rewarding than acting and it's taken her around the world opening her eyes to conflict and the joy that can rise from th

i'm chris hayes here with joe sestak, zana, author of "between two worlds," phyllis benes from institutelicy studies and matt gallagher with vote rans of america. we were in a conversation amid the break. humane occupation was the question on the table, was this possible. was the problem the implementation of how americans went about their presence in iraq, kicking down doors is one of the things that has been mentioned, or was it the fact that it's just an impossible situation in which to operate? matt, you were someone who was on the front lines of that. what was your experience, i guess, emotionally, psychologically, subjectively of being in the position of the power, the person with the gun, essentially, in that environment? >> yeah, i love they'rizing, but when you're there, you lose yourself in the action and you do the best you can with what you got. we truly became a jack of all trades, masters of none. one minute going on a raid, kicking down doors look for an insurgent and the next minute flipping a switch and realizing there's no insurgents here, it's all women and everybody p